----- Original Message ----- From: <fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 12:36 PM Subject: fedora-list Digest, Vol 1, Issue 1444 Send fedora-list mailing list submissions to fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx You can reach the person managing the list at fedora-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxx When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of fedora-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: bridge and tc bandwith management (Cristiano Soares) 2. Re: Poll: Customized Fedora (Adam T. Gautier) 3. Re: Xmms 1.2.10 from Livna.org (Chadley Wilson) 4. yum update having problems with xmms (Javier Gonzalez) 5. Mozilla rpm (Bart Kalita) 6. Re: yum update having problems with xmms (William Hooper) 7. Re: Xmms 1.2.10 from Livna.org (Alexander Dalloz) 8. Re: Xmms 1.2.10 from Livna.org (Chadley Wilson) 9. Kdevelop 3 (Mike Atamas) 10. Re: Kdevelop 3 (Martin J Hooper) 11. DNS Woes (stucklenp@xxxxxxxxxxx) 12. Re: Mozilla rpm (Dennis Calhoun) 13. Re: Poll: Customized Fedora (Aaron Matteson) 14. A couple of questions (Martin J Hooper) 15. OT Sorry!! (Martin J Hooper) 16. Re: DNS Woes (Aaron Matteson) 17. Re: OT Sorry!! (Aaron Matteson) 18. Re: OT Sorry!! (Martin J Hooper) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 14:06:49 -0800 From: "Cristiano Soares" <stillnick2@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: bridge and tc bandwith management To: "For users of Fedora Core releases" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <015501c41447$cdae6b10$6400a8c0@stillnicks> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Ryan. I see that uve done a pretty good job using only TC as a bandwidth shapper. Can i ask u a favor? Could u send me an exemple of shapping 4 different IP addresses with four different speeds. EX: 10.0.0.15 = 256kbps 10.0.0.16 = 384kbps 10.0.0.17 = 512kbps 10.0.0.18 = 768kbps is that a way to shappe inbound speed different than the outbound speed using TC? if that is, could u send me an example script too? thanks a lot. Cristian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Rothert" <ryan@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: "For users of Fedora Core releases" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 6:18 PM Subject: bridge and tc bandwith management > > Hello, > > I finally got iptables to work with my bridge using the kernel from arjanv's > page (2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1) ... Im trying to now get tc to work so I can shape > some traffic. When I enter the following commands , there are no errors, > however the tc rules are having no effect on the IP im trying to shape. > > I just want to limit IP 10.0.0.17 to 512k, and 10.0.0.18 to 1024k and so > on, Here are my tc rules > > DEV=eth0 > tc qdisc del dev $DEV root > tc qdisc add dev $DEV root handle 1: cbq avpkt 1000 bandwidth 100mbit > tc class add dev $DEV parent 1: classid 1:1 cbq rate 512kbit allot 1500 prio > 5 bounded isolated > tc filter add dev $DEV parent 1: protocol ip prio 16 u32 match ip dst > 10.0.0.17 flowid 1:1 > tc filter add dev $DEV parent 1: protocol ip prio 16 u32 match ip src > 10.0.0.17 flowid 1:1 > > > eth0 is internal interface ---\ > |------br0 (I gave br0 an IP just > for management) > eth1 is external interface---/ > > Any thoughts on why this doesnt work ? I have used these same rules on > another Fedora box that acts as a NAT/router and that worked fine, > but this new box has to act has a bridge. > > Thanks, > Ryan > > > > > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 12:11:20 -0500 From: "Adam T. Gautier" <adam_gautier@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Poll: Customized Fedora To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <4065B5B8.7070302@xxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >Sounds a lot like what kickstart already can do + extra packages and a >web frontend. > > > Kickstart is a big part of the idea, if not only because of it's importance in relation to Anaconda. The web portion is to make package resolution easier. Which in my opinion is a pain in the but right now. The web portion would span lots of third-party repositories. That is the reason it is web-based: I think this can only be solved in a networked setting and a webapp is the fastest/easiest way to gurantee that the system is in a networked environment with updated package info. Also, kickstart can add customization through scripting only (pre and post scripts) which is fine but I also want to build a customized Anaconda that is more modular and can have some pre-built functions (Example: Configuration for apache that allows finer grained control of the modules being initialized, sure you could edit the file in /etc but if you are install 5-10 in a loadbalancing situation it becomes a pain). These customizations may best be addressed in the first boot script or Anaconda, depends on the job. Also, all of the additions to Anaconda should be easily scriptable using kickstart. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 19:31:37 +0200 From: Chadley Wilson <chadley@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Xmms 1.2.10 from Livna.org To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1080408697.4618.7.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 17:26, Dams wrote: > > Without more informations we cant do much for you, i think. Well, How can I find out more about whats causing the problem? When I run xmms from terminal su - it works perfectly. When run as user from terminal, the whole system comes to a grinding holt as if something is using all of the resources, I can't even use the keyboard to try switch terminals or kill the process. The system hacks very badly causing me to hit the reset button, I waited 15 minutes last time for response from the mouse, but it just hangs there. There is hdd LED activity but its slow and inconsistent. I did uninstall xmms on the next reboot. tried installing from different rpms and repositories but get the same results, thus eliminating the rpms and repos as the problem. Question is where to from here, How does one find the prob and fix? Any suggestions will be much appreciated. Thanks -- Chadley - Linux Rocks Welcome to my world. ****************************************************************** This mail is free for distribution. You are free to - delete it - resend it - use it in anyway that makes you happy. I am not responsible for it or its content due to ignorance. Enjoy the adventures of Linux ******************************************************************* ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 01:46:56 +0800 From: "Javier Gonzalez" <gonzo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: yum update having problems with xmms To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx, linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <20040327174656.BD9063AA466@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" When I try to run a simple 'yum update', it starts running fine: it checks the necessary packages, downloads headers, and strats retreiving information. However, at a certain period it halts and then gives me a messages saying: Resolving dependencies ....Unable to satisfy dependencies Package xmms-mp3 needs xmms = 1:1.2.7, this is not available. Does anybody know what's the deal here? I know that I could just try to get this fix manually (fetch it and install it); however, I rather deal with this yum problem. cheers, G -- ______________________________________________ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.linuxmail.org This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 17:58:12 +0000 From: Bart Kalita <bartk@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Mozilla rpm To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <4065C0B4.5070405@xxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Does anybody know of a place with dayly or weekly mozilla rpm builds?? or a "how to" to make rpms myslef? I would really like to follow mozilla development without the need to install mozilla in a diffenrent place that Fedora default. all I managed to find is http://rpm.nogin.org/regularly_built/moz/Aleksey_Nogin__rpm_nogin.org_.html but there is no new builds since january. -- ____________________________________________________ Bart Kalita MCP Registered Linux user #347493 Fedora Core 2 www.bart-domain.com www.astradine.no-ip.org ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 13:02:08 -0500 (EST) From: "William Hooper" <whooperhsd3@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: yum update having problems with xmms To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <65422.65.41.50.216.1080410528.squirrel@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Javier Gonzalez said: > When I try to run a simple 'yum update', it starts running fine: it checks > the necessary packages, downloads headers, and strats retreiving > information. However, at a certain period it halts and then gives me a > messages saying: > > Resolving dependencies > ....Unable to satisfy dependencies > Package xmms-mp3 needs xmms = 1:1.2.7, this is not available. Please check the archives, this has been discussed at least a couple of times. You have an old version of xmms-mp3 (1.2.7) and no yum source for the newer version (1.2.10). Either remove xmms-mp3, or configure yum with a source to update it. -- William Hooper ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 19:09:35 +0100 From: Alexander Dalloz <alexander.dalloz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Xmms 1.2.10 from Livna.org To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1080410974.7065.482.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Am Sa, den 27.03.2004 schrieb Chadley Wilson um 18:31: > On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 17:26, Dams wrote: > > > > > Without more informations we cant do much for you, i think. > > Well, How can I find out more about whats causing the problem? > When I run xmms from terminal su - it works perfectly. > When run as user from terminal, the whole system comes to a grinding > holt as if something is using all of the resources, I can't even use the > keyboard to try switch terminals or kill the process. > The system hacks very badly causing me to hit the reset button, I waited > 15 minutes last time for response from the mouse, but it just hangs > there. There is hdd LED activity but its slow and inconsistent. > I did uninstall xmms on the next reboot. tried installing from different > rpms and repositories but get the same results, thus eliminating the > rpms and repos as the problem. > > Question is where to from here, How does one find the prob and fix? > > Any suggestions will be much appreciated. > Thanks > Chadley - Linux Rocks > Welcome to my world. I bet you made freeky settings for xmms. Being inside your user's home directory run "mv .xmms old.xmms". Then start xmms as user. Now it's working properly, right? Else, post which xmms packages you have installed from which sources. Alexander -- Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | GPG key 1024D/ED695653 1999-07-13 Fedora GNU/Linux Core 1 (Yarrow) on Athlon CPU kernel 2.4.22-1.2174.nptl Sirendipity 19:07:33 up 8 days, 3:49, load average: 1.33, 1.12, 1.03 [ Î"νÏ?θι Ïf'αÏ.Ï"ον - gnothi seauton ] my life is a planetarium - and you are the stars -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil Url : /archives/fedora-list/attachments/20040327/492fca20/attachment.bin ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 20:20:53 +0200 From: Chadley Wilson <chadley@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Xmms 1.2.10 from Livna.org To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1080411653.4618.24.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 20:09, Alexander Dalloz wrote: > I bet you made freeky settings for xmms. I bet your right! Thanks Turns out 2 things, Well before that I notice the numlock on my keyboard isnt working. but only after I try to run xmms. So I followed your advise below and viola it works. I reconfigure the iTouch plugin and problem returns. I have now discovered that the iTouch plugin isn't installed. This I found in synaptic. But it was still listed in the General Plugins. But it wasn't listed in xmms run as root. So I reinstalled the plugin and its fine now. The 2nd Thing is that my skins rpm was un-installed when I upgraded xmms by synaptic I never put it back but for the time that xmms hung on screen I noticed that it was still skinned with the pprevious skinn I had used. But no further help required its fixed now Thanks Alex.. > Being inside your user's home > directory run "mv .xmms old.xmms". Then start xmms as user. Now it's > working properly, right? Else, post which xmms packages you have > installed from which sources. > > Alexander > Chadley Wilson Production PLanner / Analyst and Supervisor A division of Technobyte (Pty) Ltd. Registration No. 1993/00917/07 Email: chadley@xxxxxxxxxxxx Tel: +27 11 265 3000 (Switchboard) or 265 3195 (Direct) 083 342 3730 (Cell) Fax: + 27 11 265 3073 Web site: www.pinnacle.co.za WARNING: The information transmitted herewith is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete all copies of the material. ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 14:34:18 -0500 From: Mike Atamas <psychomohel@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Kdevelop 3 To: Fedora List <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <4065D73A.9070500@xxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed I am running Yarrow and I noticed that yum only seems to be able to find kdevelop 2. Is there anyway to get kdevelop 3 automatically. I have the rpms but I was curious if there was a fedora was to do it. Thanks Mike psychomohel@xxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 19:40:42 +0000 From: Martin J Hooper <martinjh_linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Kdevelop 3 To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1080416442.4430.2.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 19:34, Mike Atamas wrote: > I am running Yarrow and I noticed that yum only seems to be able to find > kdevelop 2. Is there anyway to get kdevelop 3 automatically. I have the > rpms but I was curious if there was a fedora was to do it. > > Thanks > Mike > psychomohel@xxxxxxxxxxx > If you have the rpms downloaded already you can put a lint in /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources as follows dir kdevelop3 /dir/rpms/kdevelop then you can do: #up2date kdevelop3 That's the way that I upgraded to KDE3.2.1... HTH Martin ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 19:48:03 +0000 From: <stucklenp@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: DNS Woes To: "For users of Fedora Core releases" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <200403271948.i2RJm3tN066703@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have a challenge: since running "yum update" and blindly accepting all the packages and then rebooting, I have not been able to get my Fedora box on the Web. Since that system is my firewall box it is really important that I get it running again. Note that I get the same symptoms with or without the firewall running. The NIC is configured to "Automatically obtain IP address settings with DHCP" and "Automatically obtain DNS information from provider" (I have tried manually setting DNS addresses as well.) When the network service is started, the NIC does get a valid IP from the ISP, as verified by the ISP. As well, I see the lease information in the messages log. "...dhclient: bound to <myIP> -- renual in 13961 seconds... ifup: done... network: Bringing up interface etho: succeeded" Other Symptoms: ping <external IP> results in "Destination port Unreachable." ping <leased IP> Works fine. Redhat Network Configuration show the NIC active and "ok" resolve.conf contains the correct IPs for the ISP's DNS servers. To add insult to injury, when I plug my Windoze box into the cable modem and set its IP to use DHCP, I have no problem attaching to the Web. Any ideas as to how I can resolve this? Thanks ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 14:17:57 -0600 From: Dennis Calhoun <dcalhoun@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Mozilla rpm To: bartk@xxxxxxxxxxx, For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <dqnb60991ctdi1nc06k7htmo3ll89sm1ap@xxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 17:58:12 +0000, you wrote: >Does anybody know of a place with dayly or weekly mozilla rpm builds?? > >or a "how to" to make rpms myslef? Hi Bart, Out of curiosity, I found... http://www.rpm.org/ which would seem to be a good place to start. and I found these other sources for info about how to build your own rpm files too. http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-rpm1/ (seems quite good, but is quite outdated) http://dag.wieers.com/howto/rpm/ (also has some good info and several links to more) >I would really like to follow mozilla development without the need to >install mozilla in a diffenrent place that Fedora default. It might not be a bad idea to keep a stable version (the latest rpm from Fedora updates) beside your more volatile cutting edge version (the Daily build stuff, installed from a tar ball download) for reliable backup in the event of a "newest build catastrophe". -- No idea is so strong that it should not be tested by doubt. And no man is so wise that he is infallible. Dennis C. ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 12:18:29 -0800 From: Aaron Matteson <fedora@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Poll: Customized Fedora To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <20040327201830.12376.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Adam T. Gautier became daring and sent these 1.3K bytes, > > >Sounds a lot like what kickstart already can do + extra packages and a > >web frontend. > > > > > > > Kickstart is a big part of the idea, if not only because of it's > importance in relation to Anaconda. The web portion is to make package > resolution easier. Which in my opinion is a pain in the but right now. > The web portion would span lots of third-party repositories. That is > the reason it is web-based: I think this can only be solved in a > networked setting and a webapp is the fastest/easiest way to gurantee > that the system is in a networked environment with updated package > info. Also, kickstart can add customization through scripting only (pre > and post scripts) which is fine but I also want to build a customized > Anaconda that is more modular and can have some pre-built functions > (Example: Configuration for apache that allows finer grained control of > the modules being initialized, sure you could edit the file in /etc but > if you are install 5-10 in a loadbalancing situation it becomes a > pain). These customizations may best be addressed in the first boot > script or Anaconda, depends on the job. Also, all of the additions to > Anaconda should be easily scriptable using kickstart. What medium do you plan on using for this? generated ISO's would take too long and the sheer possible number would bring the server to its knee's and fill up space. The only real option i can think of is a netinstall. As for your custom configuration files, how are you going to pull that off? are you planning on rebuilding the packages with the configuration files? or pulling them down seperately, later. A customized Anaconda seems like a nice idea. An apache module would be a nice touch, be sure to add its functionality to kickstart. -- 0 1 0 Aaron M Matteson - GnuPG:0xD144B7FF 0 0 1 Real programmers don't document. If it was hard to write, 1 1 1 it should be hard to understand! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://cryptosystem.us/ - Ongoing project http://cryptosystem.us/blog/ - Blog http://mindstorm.ath.cx:8080/ - Home Wiki ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 20:24:41 +0000 From: Martin J Hooper <martinjh_linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: A couple of questions To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1080419080.5357.4.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain Is there a program like aptitude in Debian where you can browse the list of installable packages and then install them using yum? I have tried installing Synaptic but it requires apt as well and I would like to keep the system to just yum and up2date. Also is there a way of making yum look at directories on my hard disk? I'm quite liking FC... -- Martin Hooper http://www.martinjh.myby.co.uk ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 20:28:36 +0000 From: Martin J Hooper <martinjh_linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: OT Sorry!! To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1080419316.5357.7.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain Sorry about the last message being in the wrong thread... Not used to Evolution yet... -- Martin Hooper http://www.martinjh.myby.co.uk ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 12:29:18 -0800 From: Aaron Matteson <fedora@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: DNS Woes To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <20040327202918.12598.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii stucklenp@xxxxxxxxxxx became daring and sent these 1.3K bytes, > I have a challenge: since running "yum update" and blindly accepting all the packages and then rebooting, I have not been able to get my Fedora box on the Web. Since that system is my firewall box it is really important that I get it running again. Note that I get the same symptoms with or without the firewall running. > > The NIC is configured to "Automatically obtain IP address settings with DHCP" and "Automatically obtain DNS information from provider" (I have tried manually setting DNS addresses as well.) > > When the network service is started, the NIC does get a valid IP from the ISP, as verified by the ISP. As well, I see the lease information in the messages log. > "...dhclient: bound to <myIP> -- renual in 13961 seconds... > ifup: done... > network: Bringing up interface etho: succeeded" > > > Other Symptoms: > ping <external IP> results in "Destination port Unreachable." > ping <leased IP> Works fine. > > Redhat Network Configuration show the NIC active and "ok" > resolve.conf contains the correct IPs for the ISP's DNS servers. > > To add insult to injury, when I plug my Windoze box into the cable modem and set its IP to use DHCP, I have no problem attaching to the Web. I had this problem once albeit was a coincidence, but try powering off your modem (pull the power plug) and powering it back up. This fixed me up. -- 0 1 0 Aaron M Matteson - GnuPG:0xD144B7FF 0 0 1 Real programmers don't document. If it was hard to write, 1 1 1 it should be hard to understand! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://cryptosystem.us/ - Ongoing project http://cryptosystem.us/blog/ - Blog http://mindstorm.ath.cx:8080/ - Home Wiki ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 12:31:57 -0800 From: Aaron Matteson <fedora@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: OT Sorry!! To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <20040327203157.12660.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Martin J Hooper became daring and sent these 0.3K bytes, > Sorry about the last message being in the wrong thread... > > Not used to Evolution yet... Install apt from apt.freshrpms.net then install synaptic. Synamptic is basically an APT frontend that will allow you to visually select packages to install and upgrade. The only frontend to yum that i know of is up2date, but i don't think that what you had in mind :) -- 0 1 0 Aaron M Matteson - GnuPG:0xD144B7FF 0 0 1 Real programmers don't document. If it was hard to write, 1 1 1 it should be hard to understand! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://cryptosystem.us/ - Ongoing project http://cryptosystem.us/blog/ - Blog http://mindstorm.ath.cx:8080/ - Home Wiki ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 20:36:02 +0000 From: Martin J Hooper <martinjh_linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: OT Sorry!! To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1080419761.5494.1.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 20:31, Aaron Matteson wrote: > Install apt from apt.freshrpms.net then install synaptic. Synamptic is > basically an APT frontend that will allow you to visually select > packages to install and upgrade. > > The only frontend to yum that i know of is up2date, but i don't think > that what you had in mind :) Thanks Aaron just wondered :) Will try it out. -- Martin Hooper http://www.martinjh.myby.co.uk ------------------------------ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list End of fedora-list Digest, Vol 1, Issue 1444 ********************************************
