I've used Linux for several years and find some arrogant A's out there too. I learned to use it by reading HowTo's, other peoples notes, man pages, tutorials and the like. Someone took the time to write these. Linux has always worked as a community where they help each other. Unfortunately all communities have fringes I'm sorry to say. Those who say that they learned it on their own; 1) They read a man page - which someone wrote 2) They read a HowTo - which someone wrote 3) They write the programs - which someone wrote Then what is this go learn it yourself? -- jludwig <wralphie@xxxxxxxxxxx>