Hi All I belong to a number of mailing lists, I suppose most newcomers do the same thing, join every club at first and then whittle it down to the best ones when they have gained experience. The one thing that really p*+!@s me off are individuals who refuse to help or give cryptic answers, yes I know we've been here before, stick with me and I'll get to the point. Just lately some of the postings on certain lists have been getting quite strong one guy said that he saw no reason to help anyone as he had invested a lot of time and money teaching himself and why should he make life easy for someone else! (I'm still confused as to why he joined a mailing list?) So I would like to create a new catch phrase for this type of person, you know like, Spam, Hacker, Cracker, Newbie and so on. I propose "SLAMMER" the idea being that they slam the door in your face. If it takes off, in a couple of months time I can look back and say "I started that". Thoughts, comments and insults in the usual way please. Regards Peter Cannon peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx