Well I installed alsa and upgraded to xmms 1.2.10 Although I did the xmms before alsa last night, and alsa tonight. Suddenly the music I was playing last night plays but no sound! mmm mysterious. The small visualization in xmms main screen is jiving away but theres no sound, The mp3s work I tested them on my debian box, and they worked last night. it seems to be certain mp3 only though. I just cant remeber if it was before or after the xmms upgrade that I played them. any suggestions. By the way tried reinstalling xmms but alsa is a lot work and there is sound, Chad