Re: For the Newbies

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On Sat, 2004-02-28 at 00:10, Jeff Vian wrote:
> Austin Isler wrote:
> 
> > I didnt like his shell example reading "lostchild". First I am new to 
> > Linux. Second I have been using computers since MS-DOS 5. Third I am 
> > no child. Since Micro$oft is a software giant and has the money for 
> > ads, you can not judge people because they only know of Windows.
> >
> > Austin
> > Alexandre Strube wrote:
> >
> >> Em Qui, 2004-02-26 às 13:42, Wayde Gutman escreveu:
> >>  
> >>
> >>> My impression from fedora-list emails that many of the users of FC1 and
> >>> FC2 are from the GUI generation, e.t., Windows. I have been a computer
> >>> user since MS-DOS 3.3 days, as far as I am concerned, if you had never
> >>> used DOS, you are at a disadvantage.
> >>>   
> >>
> >>
> >> I've been using computers since mainframe and those perfurated cards,
> >> not to say altair and zx stuff. But my mother uses them for, say, 3
> >> years, and I'm glad that GUI stuff evolved so much she can use Fedora. I
> >> wouldn't put redhat 7 on a computer to her.
> >>
> >> And I doubt she will never need anything on command-line. Openoffice,
> >> gnome, mozilla, evolution and frozen-bubble are more than enough :-)
> >>
> I agree about not prejudging people.
> However, what I often see is that many people make no effort to help 
> themselves and expect someone else to hold their hands when doing 
> something new.  
> 
> A poster in a different thread mentioned that he would like to be able 
> to give a user a hint in the right dirrection (paraphrased) rather than 
> provide a step by step procedure for solving the problem
> This is similar to the idea of:  "Give a man a fish and he eats for a 
> day.  Teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime"
> 
> Some people are only willing to do something if they are forced to do 
> so, and others only need a hint in where to look an dthey will do it 
> themselves with others somewhere between.  I have seen both extremes on 
> this list, and the people providing help also are spread across the 
> spectrum of philosophies.
> 
> I personally both prefer the hint and like to provide the hint.  I like 
> to learn and become independent.  We all would be better if everyone did 
> the same but not everyone is the same so we have to deal with all types.
> 
> The poster providing the example gives both an idea of where to look and 
> what it should look like and to anyone with an idea of learning it was 
> all that should have been needed.
> 
> Just my $.02
> 
> Jeff
> 
agreed 
Maddy




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