On Sat, 2004-02-28 at 00:10, Jeff Vian wrote: > Austin Isler wrote: > > > I didnt like his shell example reading "lostchild". First I am new to > > Linux. Second I have been using computers since MS-DOS 5. Third I am > > no child. Since Micro$oft is a software giant and has the money for > > ads, you can not judge people because they only know of Windows. > > > > Austin > > Alexandre Strube wrote: > > > >> Em Qui, 2004-02-26 Ã s 13:42, Wayde Gutman escreveu: > >> > >> > >>> My impression from fedora-list emails that many of the users of FC1 and > >>> FC2 are from the GUI generation, e.t., Windows. I have been a computer > >>> user since MS-DOS 3.3 days, as far as I am concerned, if you had never > >>> used DOS, you are at a disadvantage. > >>> > >> > >> > >> I've been using computers since mainframe and those perfurated cards, > >> not to say altair and zx stuff. But my mother uses them for, say, 3 > >> years, and I'm glad that GUI stuff evolved so much she can use Fedora. I > >> wouldn't put redhat 7 on a computer to her. > >> > >> And I doubt she will never need anything on command-line. Openoffice, > >> gnome, mozilla, evolution and frozen-bubble are more than enough :-) > >> > I agree about not prejudging people. > However, what I often see is that many people make no effort to help > themselves and expect someone else to hold their hands when doing > something new. > > A poster in a different thread mentioned that he would like to be able > to give a user a hint in the right dirrection (paraphrased) rather than > provide a step by step procedure for solving the problem > This is similar to the idea of: "Give a man a fish and he eats for a > day. Teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime" > > Some people are only willing to do something if they are forced to do > so, and others only need a hint in where to look an dthey will do it > themselves with others somewhere between. I have seen both extremes on > this list, and the people providing help also are spread across the > spectrum of philosophies. > > I personally both prefer the hint and like to provide the hint. I like > to learn and become independent. We all would be better if everyone did > the same but not everyone is the same so we have to deal with all types. > > The poster providing the example gives both an idea of where to look and > what it should look like and to anyone with an idea of learning it was > all that should have been needed. > > Just my $.02 > > Jeff > agreed Maddy