My impression from fedora-list emails that many of the users of FC1 and FC2 are from the GUI generation, e.t., Windows. I have been a computer user since MS-DOS 3.3 days, as far as I am concerned, if you had never used DOS, you are at a disadvantage. In regards to FC1, I see it as Beta. If you want to know what is on your system, open up Terminal and do the followings... [newbie@lostchild newbie]$ dmesg | lpr (sends to printer) [newbie@lostchild newbie]$ dmesg | more (I like it better than less) Most importantly, get yourself a good reference book and subscribe to a linux-based magazine (Linux Journal, Linux Format, or Linux Magazine). I own two IDG Books's Bible Series, Unix Bible and Red Hat Bible. www.linux.oreilly.com or www.oreilly.com (I own a number of linux-related and Mac OSX-related books from this company) www.redhatsales.com (no brainer since FC1 is a Red Hat product) The reference source to end all reference source, www.tldp.org [The Linux Documentation Project's website that I have bookmarked for a long time]. If you want more grief and despair, get FreeBSD (www.freebsd.org) and tackled that ! Don't knock Mac OSX, it has a Unix core (Darwin) that is similar to FreeBSD 4.4... -Wayde Gutman Tucson, Arizona USA