>>> >>>>1) The entire system locks up after I select "logout" >>> >>>>2) The entire system locks up when I try to use >>>>Mozilla >>> >>>Hmm... Lock ups in stable releases are very often symptoms of >>>hardware problems. Boot the installer CD with `memtest' (sp?) and see >>>whether it reports any problems. >>> >>>-- >>> >>> >> >> Hmmm, that's interesting. I have exactly the same symptoms with >my machine. >> Memtest86 runs 100% for days. I've tried different processors, >memory, disk >> and cdrom drives, video cards, keyboards, mice..not much is >left. This only >> seems to be a problem under Gnome though, it doesn't happen with >> KDE...except that when trying to set up the proxy settings for >> Mozilla...then it hangs as soon as I touch the keyboard. I have >a four year >> old DFI MB with a VIA686A chipset and have tried it with both a Duron 800 >> and a Duron 1300 with the same results. I've also tried virtually every >> combination of BIOS setting I can imagine. Nothing appears in >the logs, and >> the only way to escape is to reset or restart the PC, after >which the disks >> need recovery. >> >> Any ideas? > >I had a similar symptom when I ran dhclient to get an ip address when I >had one of the problematic 3 com cards that used to work properly. > >KDE is not so touchy with a properly working ethernet connection. >Mozilla and GNOME really get a bit touchy when the connection is not as >it should be. > >I would try to not enable your nic during boot. Then once booted up, try >to log into GNOME. I was able to do so, with the similar problem to yours. > >Then try to launch mozilla and see if it works on your machine, not an >internet site. If you can do this, bugzilla the NIC with the make/model >information. > > >If you start GNOME, then get an IP from dhclient or whatever means, you >probably won't be able to logout of GNOME. Mozilla probably wil start, >but not allow you to type anything into the location bar. > >I submitted bugs during tests for Fedora on these sort of symptoms. > >Also, instead of letting the machine die totally, which will ask for a >disk check, try poweroff or as root telinit 6. > >I have a problem related to reiserfs with the 2.6 kernels and use the >telinit 6 to shut down. It works alright, even with big problems. You >still might need to hit the powerswitch to reboot, but it will shut down >most processes. > >Jim > > Thanks for the hints though my symptoms sound different. I've tried your suggestion of not enabling the nic during boot, though the PC has a static IP. I've also tried three different nic's with the same result. I don't have any choice about turning off the power, as the machine hangs completely, no response to Ctrl-Alt-F1, Ctl-Alt-Del or any Alt-SysRq functions. Even the mouse pointer stops. Seems wierd. Windoze XP and 2K both worked fine on this machine. Gordon Larsen ve6gel@xxxxxxx