Edward Croft wrote: > I think that we need to have the financial support structure in > place. That would make sense...if fedora were managed by a non-profit organization...and if the majority of the development effort were being done by volunteers. But at this point, the reality of the situation is that a very large chunk of what can be considered fedora development is red hat employee time. And a good chunk of the physical resources are very much red hat owned resources still. And before we can competently talk about anything like a a 'financial support structure' to support the community volunteers based on the sell of swag. Someone in the community is going to have to have a serious conversation with Red Hat (as in the legal department),on how Fedora trademarked logos and artwork can be licensed and used. US trademark laws being what they are, you (or whatever legal entity you create) will have to get pen a trademark license agreement with Red Hat to use whatever Fedora trademarks are developed. I'm not saying this is a bad idea, I'm just saying if you are serious about it, yer going to have to get access the trademarks in a formal manner. And don't be too shocked if Red Hat wants to have an opportunity to sell Fedora trademarked swag for its own reasons. Anyways, if you are serious about this i would suggest that you first start the ball rolling by trying to build and incorporate a non profit organization whose purpose is to provide resources to fedora volunteers in an open,transparent, organized manner. Initially, such a non-profit organization could take in donations from community members and redistribute those donations in an 'equitable' way back to the community volunteers who are actively working on fedora. Don't count on being able to sell branded swag initially. If I were Red Hat I would be very reluctantly to license the Fedora trademarks to a person or entity before they have shown a real commitment to follow through with the goal of being a support resource to community volunteers. -jef"its all about initiative"spaleta
