Am Do, den 05.02.2004 schrieb Tim Kossack um 22:42: > i don't just mean plug-ins, but also the general effort red hat puts > into their desktop (as well as server) offering(s) compared to the > competition trying to make the life of the user and the admin easier. > you can of course rest on the idealistic standpoint, that > non-oss/proprietary are per se evil, but let's face it - there are > certain standards which you have to take into account, and without java, > flash, mp3, video etc. i consider even an os for the corporate desktop > not up to the task. I think you are comparing "apples and peaches". Fedora is "community based" and for free, SusE, Sun, and others aren't "community based" nor for free. You can't include commercial packages into a freely distributable package. RH's enterprise line of products include most of the software you are missing. > to sum it up - red hat's current desktop offerings are basically their > enterprise server putted in a differently labeled box, and i wouldn't > exactly call that a viable desktop (strategy). Rh is the first distro with a usable, structured menu system and desktop to be meant "for work". Compare it to thw bloaded SuSE, Mandrake, ... menues and destops. It needed a lot of developement efforts to make it work. It's not perfect yet, but a huge step into the right direction. So, contrary to your statement, you might say RH was the first distro which made some real efforts to bring Linux on the end users's desktop.