On Fri, 2004-01-30 at 15:45, Bevan C. Bennett wrote: > Marc Schwartz wrote: > > > To go to sawfish, you should be able to open a terminal window and use: > > > > killall metacity; sawfish & > > > > then > > > > gnome-session-save > > The first three times I tried that it failed because metacity restarted > before sawfish started. > > The fourth time it worked. I have seen variations on the above command with a 'sleep 10;' command prior to the 'sawfish &', but I do not know if that makes a big difference. I never had a problem with MC restarting....could just be me though... > Apparantly, however, my troubled user went and put in their own private > installation of IceWM (which I haven't tried or seen personally) which > allegedly is playing nicer with Gnome than sawfish was, and does all the > little things he wanted. *sigh* He understands that he's now officially > unsupported and on his own. There were some virtual desktop issues with Sawfish as I recall, which were moderately frustrating. LOL. Life would be boring (if not easier) if folks actually followed support policy.... ;-) > I've decided I like the alt+click to raise a window better than the > 'original' click-to-raise, because it doesn't pass the click through to > the underlying application (which often caused trouble). I like the focus follows mouse functionality (but not raise), which fits with the way I tend to work on a desktop. However, the change in Metacity behavior to force one to have to click on the window decorations to raise the window was frustrating, especially if you tend to use a "thin" WM theme. Having to press yet another key, for me, adds to the work flow. That is (one of the reasons) why I went to XFWM4. It can be configured in a variety of ways. For more info on the WM settings, you can review the XFWM4 online documentation here: http://members.home.nl/xfce4/documentation/xfwm4.html The good news in all of this is that we have choices... HTH, Marc