-----Original Message----- From: Rick Stevens <rstevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Jan 30, 2004 12:29 PM To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: "ntpdate" versus "ntpd" > "ntpd -q" should do the same thing as "ntpdate". Of course, a simple > scan of the man page would have revealed this. i really hate it when i have to prove that i'm not as dumb as i sound. as i'm sure i mentioned in a previous posting, "ntpd -q" does *not* have the same behaviour as "ntpdate". ntpdate works immediately, as far as i can tell. from reading the man page (and from personal experimentation), "ntpd -q" does *not* work immediately. it may very well work at the next sync event, but that does not necessarily mean immediately. all i'm asking is if there is an invocation of ntpd that emulates the clearly deprecated ntpdate utility. if not, that's cool, i can live with it. but please don't suggest i go RTFM when i have obviously done that, referred to it, and pointed out that it's not quite the same. methinks it really is time to hit www.ntp.org for the definitive docs. rday