(sorry i can't respond directly to alexander dalloz's posting, i have to do it through a web browser. some day, i'll get this figured out.) i can sympathize with alexander's question -- ntpd is clearly a daemon, while ntpdate is a one-time "call and run" tool as he puts it. but if you look at the man page for ntpdate under FC1, it states right up front that ntpdate functionality is now available in ntpd, and ntpdate will eventually be retired from the distro "after a suitable period of mourning." fair enough. but this raises the obvious question -- is there a way to invoke "ntpd" to emulate nptdate's one-time, sync-my-clock-RFN!! behaviour, strictly from the command line, without resorting to messing with /etc/ntp.conf? i mean, this seems to be a fair question -- if i fire up my laptop, and it's on the net, how can i sync it with a well-known NTP server if i have access only to ntpd, and not ntpdate? i suspect it's time to pore over the docs at www.ntp.org, just to clarify all of this in my own mind. rday