Re: Serial ATA and SiI 3112A controller

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On Wednesday 28 January 2004 09:01 am, apjaworski@xxxxxxx wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> Has anyone had any experience with the SiI 3112A SATA controller
> (part od ASUS A7N8X board)?  I am considering getting a new system
> with Serial ATA disks only and I need to install FC1 on a "virgin"
> system.  I learned here that, for example, Intel ICH5R seems to
> work fine (ASUS P4P800 board) but what about other controllers,
> especially if one wants to go with Athlon.
>
> Any thoughts will be appreciated.
>
> Andy
>
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The archives of the Linux kernel mailing list are a good source of 
this info. Google is your friend. Looks like you'll need libata 
support for this device.

Regards,

John



Serial ATA (SATA) for Linux status report
From: Jeff Garzik
Date: Wed Dec 03 2003 - 15:47:12 EST

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Editor's preface: This is clearly a first draft, only covering the
basics. In order for this document to be effective, I request that
users and developers send me (or post) their SATA driver questions and
issues. I will do my best to address them here.


Serial ATA (SATA) for Linux
status report
Dec 3, 2003


Hardware support
================


Intel ICH5
----------
Summary: No TCQ. Looks like a PATA controller, but with a few added,
non-standard SATA port controls.

libata driver status: Production, but see issue #2, #3.

drivers/ide driver status: Production, but see issue #1, #2.


Issue #1: Depending on BIOS settings, IDE driver may lock up computer
when probing drives.

Issue #2: Excessive interrupts are seen in some configurations.

Issue #3: "Enhanced mode" or "SATA-only mode" may need to be set in 
BIOS.


Intel ICH6 ("AHCI")
-------------------
Summary: Per-device queues, full SATA control including hotplug
and PM.

libata driver status: In development.


Promise
-------
Summary: Per-host queues on all controllers. Full SATA control
including hotplug and PM on all but one controller.

libata driver status: Beta.


Silicon Image 3112
------------------
Summary: No TCQ. Looks like a PATA controller, but with full SATA
control including hotplug and PM.

libata driver status: Alpha.

drivers/ide driver status: Production, but see issue #4.

Issue #4: Need to have the most recent fixes posted to lkml, for 
stable
operation and full performance (where possible).


Broadcom/ServerWorks/Apple
--------------------------
Summary: Huge per-device queues, full SATA control including hotplug
and PM.

libata driver status: Beta.


VIA
---
Summary: No TCQ. Looks like a PATA controller, but with full SATA
control including hotplug and PM.

libata driver status: Beta.




Software support
================


Basic Serial ATA support
------------------------
The "ATA host state machine", the core of the entire driver, is
considered production-stable.

The error handling is _very_ simple, but at this stage that is an
advantage. Error handling code anywhere is inevitably both complex and
sorely under-tested. libata error handling is intentionally simple.
Positives: Easy to review and verify correctness. Never data
corruption. Negatives: if an error occurs, libata will simply send
the error back the block layer. There are limited retries by the block
layer, depending on the type of error, but there is never a bus reset.

Or in other words: "it's better to stop talking to the disk than
compound existing problems with further problems."

As Serial ATA matures, and host- and device-side errata become 
apparent,
the error handling will be slowly refined. I am planning to work with 
a
few (kind!) disk vendors, to obtain special drives/firmwares that 
allow
me to inject faults, and otherwise exercise error handling code.



Queueing support
----------------
Even though some SATA host controllers on the market already support
command queueing (a.k.a. "TCQ"), libata does not yet support it.

However, libata was designed from the ground-up to support queueing, 
so
I need only change a few lines of code, and write two functions, to
enable this behavior.

Queueing will be enabled in libata soon, but to do so requires a long
stretch of testing on a large variety of controllers and drives. This
is very time-intensive, and is the largest part of this task.


Tangent: Host-based queueing and Native Command Queueing

Queueing is the process of sending multiple commands to a single 
device,
without waiting for prior commands to finish. This increases
performance and reduces latency. There are three types of queueing in
the ATA world:

1) "legacy TCQ" -- some PATA devices support this. Just ignore it,
it's going away.

2) "host-based TCQ" -- the host controller supports a queue of drive
commands, whether or not the drive supports it.

3) "Native Command Queueing" -- both host and drive cooperate in the
queueing and execution of drive commands. This should provide the
highest performance and lowest latency of all three options.


#1 is support by drivers/ide _only_. libata will not support this.
#2 will soon be supported by libata.
#3 will be supported by libata when hardware is available from drive
manufacturers.


Hotplug support
---------------
All SATA is hotplug.

libata does not support hotplug... yet.



Power Management support
------------------------
Over and above the power management specified in the ATA/ATAPI
specification, one can aggressively control the power consumption of
SATA hosts, the SATA bus, and the SATA device.


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