On Wednesday 14 January 2004 19:57, Tom Mitchell wrote: > On Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 06:32:37PM -0500, Simon Perreault wrote: > > On January 12, 2004 17:40, Jeffrey Stephens wrote: > > > Does anyone know why the Fedora distribution does not include the > > > "kpackage" application? > > .... > > > That's because kpackage duplicated some functionality already > > present in the Red Hat package management application. > > .... > > > IMHO, it is not a good reason to remove it and it should be brought > > back. It works, and does not break anything. > > Goodness I want to disagree. I suspect if my favorite tool was > excluded I would be grumpy. > > I constantly marvel at how much STUFF is included in Redhat-FC1. > > Today I have 1336 packages loaded ( rpm -qa | wc) on this FC1 box. > These seem to bring along a boat load of files. Some 271282 by my > count ( rpm -qa --filesbypkg | wc ). > > OK I have big enough disks that I do not have to be selective yet. > But my brain hurts when I think about the pile. > > Thus, I am pleased that RH is of a mind to not include packages with > duplicate functionality. > Kpackage provides quite a bit of "additional" (and I would argue "critical") functionality that is not provided by Redhat's PMS. In addition, the very thing you are railing against, i.e., "bring along a boatload of files", is a problem that Kpackage is particularly well designed to solve. IMO it is the best available utility for identifying, locating, and removing unwanted/unneeded packages. Almost the first thing I do after installing a new distro is to fire up Kpackage, scroll through the list of installed packages, highlight those I don't want, and remove them. Of course Kpackage uses RPM to check dependencies so that you don't inadvertently screw things up. This is why I consider Kpackage indispensible. Regards, JeffS