Fred Nastos said: > On January 6, 2004 11:28 pm, William Hooper wrote: >> Fred Nastos said: >> [snip] >> >> > Secons, all the cries to "search the archives" are falling on >> > deaf ears since a newbie, especially those coming from a non-redhat >> > distribution experience, don't even know where the archives are. >> > Again, why isn't this linked from the website? On >> > http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/release-notes/ it gives clear >> > instructions on how to join the mailing-lists, >> >> And on the page to join the mailing list is a link to the archives, >> which >> include a search engine. > > But, you don't even need to get to that page to join the list. True enough (as you point out it can be done via e-mail). It has been a while, but IIRC the link is in the welcome mail you get an any case. > Let's say I'm a newbie (which I essentially am) I go to > http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/ and it says "Since the project is > new, there aren't any docs other than the Release Notes > at this time." It provides a link to the Release Notes. > > So, as a newbie, I would click on Release Notes link, which takes > me to http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/release-notes/ and scrolling > down I see: > > --begin paste-- Please don't use --(space) as a separator because many mail programs use it as a separator for the signature and strip it out in replies. [snip] > The website it gives (http://fedora.redhat.com) is just the same > website that led me to this page. But, it gives instructions for > joining the mailing list right there. After that there's some > talk about IRC channels and then a section titled Hardware > Requirements. No where is there a link to the mailing list > web page (i.e. http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list) Wouldn't the newbie see on the front page: http://fedora.redhat.com/ "Join the fedora-list mailing list or chat with other participants on IRC." Which is a link to http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list. This is what I saw first when I wanted to verify that the archive link from there included the search. There is also the issue of the archive link being in the header for every message, but unfortunately a number of mail programs aren't compliant with that RFC so they don't display anything about it. -- William Hooper
