On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 04:48, M A Young wrote: > On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Sean Middleditch wrote: > > Because in the instances I *do* use plain RPM, is *also* locks up. It > > never locks up when using apt or yum, now that I think on it - just > > plain rpm and the redhat-install-packages utility. I never use up2date, > > since it refuses to work w/ Rawhide, only the Severn beta, which isn't > > what I want. > > You can use up2date to get rawhide, as this is basically what the severn > update channel supplies. The Severn channel seems to be a lot mroe out of date than the packages I can grab w/ yum. In any case, it's not really that much of a problem to me, I'm not even that fond the up2date UI. ~,^ > > Also just because rpm won't work it doesn't mean it caused the lockup, > the lockup is caused by the previous application not clearing up the locks > properly or being killed before it has a chance to do so. And, again, in many instances that RPM fails, the previous command or app I ran *was* rpm (or redhat-install-packages). And, even *if* a "previous app" is causing it, it's still happening, which is bull. I don't care what the cause is (from a user standpoint), I only know that it stops working, and the only way to make it work is use "advanced hacker black magic". If there is a propensity for the rpm command or redhat-install-packages to fail (which should be *fixed*), then it should be very gracefully and cleanly handled. > > Michael Young > > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- Sean Middleditch <elanthis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> AwesomePlay Productions, Inc.