I have to say that where they have made a serious mistake is that they're judging a beta. If I expected everything to work 100% I'd still be using RH9 and apt-get/freshrpms. ( and still do for one machine ) As with any OS if you want decent stability wait at least 2 months after release. Personally I suspect RH9 is going to be one of those 'classic' stable releases like RH 7.3 ended up. ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk