I agree. The need or desire dictates the product used. For me, SuSE is more affordable, has long term maintenance and an option for a long term stable product compatible with the rest. For $50 ($10 less than the Red Hat Network) I get an original disc, I can copy and distribute it for free, and I can install it on all the computers I desire. If, on the other hand I desire to sell it, I have to re-sell a legal boxed version. Not a problem for me. I can afford $50 once for 18 - 24 months of "maintenance" the term for what you get from up2date with RH. Please be advised, I am not pushing RH here. I haven't tried it and if I like it when I do, I will probably go that route. I will have to see if I run into any walls or restrictions. It may be that RH will release a similar option before I lock in my decision. Buck -----Original Message----- From: fedora-list-admin@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:fedora-list-admin@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bryan J. Smith Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 5:48 PM To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx; Buck Cc: dh@xxxxxxxx; fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx; 'Benjamin J. Weiss'; 'Alexandre Oliva' Subject: RE: Fedora and the System Administrator -- Red Hat v. SuSE it is not ... Quoting Buck <RHList@xxxxxxxxxxxx>: > For me, it looks like it will be SuSE. I will be checking it out this > weekend. One thing I want to make clear is that I don't see it as "Red Hat v. SuSE." Both Red Hat and SuSE have their "consumer" products as well as their "Enterprise" products. In the case of Red Hat, it seems the "consumer" products will no longer be shrink wrapped. SuSE will offer its SuSE Linux 9 Professional for x86-64 for $119. But I think _many_ people are _forgetting_ that Red Hat will also be offering its Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3.0 for AMD64 for $179 via download with 1 year subscription. Now SuSE is going to ship the kitchen sink (6 CDs, 1 DVD) whereas Red Hat is shipping a desktop OS with limited services. I'll admit to that. But Red Hat is also shipping a GPL-anal distro, whereas SuSE has a habit to introduce all sorts of non-GPL dependencies. Again, for _me_ (and I do not expect anyone else to feel obligated to agree), I like the Red Hat approach _assuming_ I can build Fedora packages from SRPM on RHEL WS 3.0 AMD64. Again, I'll re-iterate, regardless of whether Fedora is a community or a Red Hat "focus area," it's in Red Hat's best commercial interest to ensure the non- core Fedora packages at least build on their Enterprise series of products. -- Bryan "I've beat this horse beyond 9 lives" Smith -- Bryan J. Smith, E.I. mailto:b.j.smith@xxxxxxxx http://thebs.org ------------------------------------------------------------------ There is no greater ignorance than the popular American environ- mental movement, which focuses on the most useless details. Be it recycling the world's most renewable resource or refusal to use proven CFC insulation on launch vehicles, no lives will be spared in the further pursuit of, ironically, harming the environment. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list