I've done a full (not an upgrade) install on a P2-450 box. Went well except that when I try to activate eth0 the machine hangs hard (requires a power cycle) unless the e/net cable is not connected. Is there a known problem with the 3c905 driver? -- Jim Lemke jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx Orillia, Ontario 1992 ST1100, STOC #3750 COG #2637 Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music. George Carlin