RE: fedora will not access dhcp server to get IP

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How many dynamic IP addresses do you pay your ADSL provider for?  Here in
the SF Bay area you pay an additional $5 per IP address. Unless you buy an
IP DSL/Cablemodem gateway so you can create your own Class C address space
i.e. 192.168.X.X, your FC1 DHCP is not going to work. -- Per

-----Original Message-----

I have had the same hardware and installed various versions of (red
hat) linux many times over the past years. It has always autodetected
all my hardware and autoconnected to my Internet provider. Originally
my local cable company using DHCP then my local phone company (ADSL)
also using DHCP. At no time did I ever configure any networking, I just
told whatever version of red hat to use DHCP and we were off. 

I hadn't been using linux much but now I'm enrolled in computer science
and wanted to stop using Win2k so thought I'd install a newer version
of everything but suddenly I have no ability to connect to the network.
Again, no hardware has changed -- except I did install 256 meg more
RAM. The ADSL "modem" has remained connected, the nic is the same,
everything is exactly as it was, where it was. Win2k continues to
access my ADSL connection 100% of the time. 

I installed Fedora core 1 and, as usual, the installation was flawless
-- except after install, there is no connection to the DHCP server. At
boot it says 'bringing up eth0...' then a line about failing to get ip
settings or something. Trying to get eth0 to work after boot is
similarly useless. It waits for approx 1 minute each time then says
"failed". 

I have reinstalled 6 or 7 times with different strategies, but no
different results. I tried a SuSE network install, but it also fails to
get any sort of connection (but that may be because I have no idea what
"parameters", if any, are needed for the nic. 

Interestingly, I tried reinstalling Red Hat 7.2 and it did not set up
my nic properly but this is NOT the problem with Fedora and SuSE. BOTH
are identifying my nic properly and fedora, at least, installs the
"proper" driver. The nic is a D-Link but it has always been identified
as a DEC 21x4x based card. I even took the damn thing out to read the
chip numbers to make sure I wasn't remembering it wrong. (And I
*wasn't* remembering wrong.) 

So I "rebooted" the "modem" by unplugging it, hoping to get new IP
leases, or whatever. No change. Win2k still works perfectly, linux
still fails to contact anything when first attempting to find the dhcp
server. 

btw, l0 works fine (i can ping 127.0.0.1). 

there seems to be no dhcpcd or pump on fedora, but i did find that
dhclient works from the terminal but that has the same results as
attempting to use the graphical interface to "start" eth0. Except with
dhclient I get many lines of output while the minute elapses and before
I get the error saying no DHCP offers were received. Basically it says
it's sending a request, then another, then another, etc. No response,
then it times out. 

btw, Win2k (and OS/2 before it, and various red hats before it) never
wait(ed) any amount of time to get their DHCP IPs. It happens in a few
seconds, not in a minute or more. 

ifconfig shows everything "working. There is an entry for l0 and one
for eth0 with all kinds of info for each, but no IP for eth0 (of
course). I'm going on memory here since this has been an oddysey for 3
days and the only net connection I have is from win2k. 

I read somewhere there was some bug and "fix" about requiring a
hostname of *any* kind to get eth0 working but I tried that and it
changed nothing. (In fact, the symptoms I read about didn't seem to be
happening on my machine, but I thought I'd try anyway.) 

I saw on my win2k system the IRQ of the network card was 9 but fedora
was trying to say it was 10 so I tried to change it to 9 to see what
would happen but nothing did. I'm not really sure how to change an IRQ.
I just went to the nic entry in some networking tool in the Gnome gui
somewhere and changed the drop down list for the nic's IRQ from
"unknown" to "9" and rebooted. no joy. 

I read some networking howto and got some vague ideas about things to
try but none did anything. 

I know I'm not providing much technical detail here but I can't
remember some and don't know what all would be needed to diagnose
anyway. 

So, summary: 

- the nic is recognized and a driver is installed and it appears to
work. 
- the adsl 'modem' works for sure since Win2k continues to connect 
- the attempt to find the dhcp server at my phone company and get an ip
address for eth0 fails 100% of the time in linux 

Question: 

where do I look next? What do I try and how do I try it? What
information do I try to extract from those attempts? How do I apply
that information (if acquired) to fix this damn thing? 

Thanks for the patience


-- 
 Trevor Smith    |    trevor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx



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