I've been using Fedora to keep my RH 9 up to date for some time now with no problem. Synaptic always hangs on trying to install or upgrade something, but apt-get works with no problem. Synaptic is still good as a visual index to what's installed, what can be upgraded, and so on. Having recently gotten an upgrade of synaptic, I tried a dist-upgrade using synaptic. (Whether this has anything to do with my problem, I don't know, but for completeness --.) As before, it hung after downloading things. There were a bunch of upgrades that became available a couple of days ago (list below). So, I killed synaptic, and did an apt-get dist-upgrade. Then, had to go run some errands. Shutdown the machine. I've been using a standard RH 9 boot using the RH version of what I guess is a gnome WM. When I rebooted, the login display refused to start and gave the following message: Failed to start the display server several times in a short time period; disabling display :0 <OK> I guess this is at the xdm login screen before I even get to the window manager, but I'm out of my depth here. I'll probably learn more than I want to know about startup before I'm finished with this problem! On accepting <OK> I got a console login. Well, fortunately I found twm, set up a simple .xinitrc in my $HOME, and was able to get a gui going with startx. (I hasten to add that I use console windows a lot -- mutt, vim, prolog, postresql... So I'm not completely powerless without Xwindows. but I also use acroread, gv, gui web browsers, the pan newsreader and the occaisional graphics program.) _Most_ things that I use seem to work. Pan gives the following error message on startup: (pan:3786): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading menu image: Image header corrupt but it seems to work OK (so far!). When I try to start synaptic, I get: $ synaptic & ** (synaptic:3860): WARNING **: Cannot open font file for font Luxi Sans 10 (synaptic:3860): Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkwidget.c: line 1756 (gtk_widget_hide): assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed [3]+ Done synaptic $ Some others: Dia fails to start and says: $ dia Warning: program compiled against libxml 205 using older 204 ** (dia:3243): WARNING **: Cannot open font file for font Luxi Sans 10 ** (gnome_segv:3246): WARNING **: Cannot open font file for font Luxi Sans 10 $ Sodipodi starts but gives the message: $ sodipodi & [1] 3248 $ Warning: program compiled against libxml 205 using older 204 Galeon seems to work, as does Mozilla firebird. The packages that I "upgraded" today were: XFree86-tools_4.3.0-2.90.43_i386.rpm XFree86-truetype-fonts_4.3.0-2.90.43_i386.rpm XFree86-twm_4.3.0-2.90.43_i386.rpm XFree86-xauth_4.3.0-2.90.43_i386.rpm XFree86-xdm_4.3.0-2.90.43_i386.rpm XFree86-xfs_4.3.0-2.90.43_i386.rpm XFree86-base-fonts_4.3.0-2.90.43_i386.rpm XFree86-devel_4.3.0-2.90.43_i386.rpm XFree86-font-utils_4.3.0-2.90.43_i386.rpm XFree86-ISO8859-9-100dpi-fonts_4.3.0-2.90.43_i386.rpm XFree86-ISO8859-9-75dpi-fonts_4.3.0-2.90.43_i386.rpm XFree86-libs_4.3.0-2.90.43_i386.rpm XFree86-libs-data_4.3.0-2.90.43_i386.rpm XFree86-Mesa-libGL_4.3.0-2.90.43_i386.rpm XFree86-Mesa-libGLU_4.3.0-2.90.43_i386.rpm XFree86-100dpi-fonts_4.3.0-2.90.43_i386.rpm XFree86_4.3.0-2.90.43_i386.rpm XFree86-75dpi-fonts_4.3.0-2.90.43_i386.rpm XFree86-ISO8859-15-100dpi-fonts_4.3.0-2.90.43_i386.rpm XFree86-ISO8859-15-75dpi-fonts_4.3.0-2.90.43_i386.rpm glibc_2.3.2-27.9.7_i686.rpm glibc-devel_2.3.2-27.9.7_i386.rpm nscd_2.3.2-27.9.7_i386.rpm glibc-common_2.3.2-27.9.7_i386.rpm postgresql72-libs_1-4.rhl9_i386.rpm postgresql_7.3.4-3.rhl9_i386.rpm postgresql-contrib_7.3.4-3.rhl9_i386.rpm postgresql-devel_7.3.4-3.rhl9_i386.rpm postgresql-docs_7.3.4-3.rhl9_i386.rpm postgresql-jdbc_7.3.4-3.rhl9_i386.rpm postgresql-libs_7.3.4-3.rhl9_i386.rpm postgresql-pl_7.3.4-3.rhl9_i386.rpm postgresql-python_7.3.4-3.rhl9_i386.rpm postgresql-server_7.3.4-3.rhl9_i386.rpm postgresql-tcl_7.3.4-3.rhl9_i386.rpm postgresql-test_7.3.4-3.rhl9_i386.rpm ethereal_0.9.16-0.90.1_i386.rpm ethereal-gnome_0.9.16-0.90.1_i386.rpm Any ideas what is bad and how to fix it? In a way I think this cloud has a silver lining. I have an old slow machine and was beginning to be a bit unhappy with the weight of bells and whistles in the standard RH9 user interface-- was thinking of going to something lighter--but not necessarily today!. My only problem with twm so far is that I'm using it with all defaults and I can't seem to adapt to the way it likes to hang on to the focus of the previous window when I think it should change. But I'm sure to find some apps that I would like to use that don't work, sooner or later. Yesterday in haste I posted this on the linux.redhat newsgroup and met with very little sympathy. Messages to the effect: "that's what you deserve for doing a massive upgrade like that all at once." Hope someone here will be more sympathetic. Best, John Velman velman@xxxxxxx