All, Okay, this is probably going to immerse me in a flame war, but, to put it bluntly, I'm scared spitless. I've been using RH since 7.2 (okay, I know a bunch of you have been using it lots longer), but I can't remember EVER seeing this number of posts on a RHL release about things that are non-functional right out of the box. Sure, plenty of security patches would show up, but at least for the most part, if you installed from the CD, things would *work* even before you got out to the up2date site and got stuff patched. I'm sure many of you are on both the fedora and redhat lists. Notice the difference in the tenor and number of posts? In an average day on the redhat list, I see around 100-150 posts, mostly "how do I configure this" or "what package does this" or other sysadmin type stuff. Here, I see 300-400 posts a day, with "this doesn't work when installed" or "this won't install" or "up2date/apt/yum doesn't work after a standard install", etc. Would it hurt that much to slow down the release cycle of fedora to match what RHL used to enjoy? To help ensure that a *WORKING* distro is released? Every time I steel myself to try a fedora install, I see another 50 messages on how some other part of the main OS is screwed up, and to go check on bugzilla to see how to fix it. I think I've finally been convinced to NOT try FC1 by this list, and to wait and see if FC2 has better quality. Don't get me wrong. I loved RHL with an evangelical zeal. I desperately want to do the same with fedora. But I just don't have the confidence in it that I did with RHL...not after having subscribed to this list. Ben