On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > > By using FreshRPMS (which are build *for* Fedora) and Fedora what do I > > > > exactly mix? - I don't get it. Seriously. > > > Packages from freshrpms.net can conflict with packages from other add-on > > > repositories and even with future packages from Fedora Core. > > As I said - I've been using FreshRPMS with RHL 7.3, 8.0 and 9 - this > > never happened (no conflicts). And speaking of other repos - use only > > one! > Is that feasible? I mean, do you get everything from a single repository? I mean that none of FreshRPMS packages was in conflict with RH's distribution packages. > Isn't mixing of DAG, freshrpms, kde-redhat and other repository pretty > common? Yes I do that. :-) And it conflicts. Pinning in apt fixes it. As for now i run (on RHL9) kernel from CCRMA (2.4.22 premptible, low latency) and ALSA modules from CCRMA, 35 FreshRPMS packages and 23 Dag's. I have no problems with that since I control it. > At least it is my impression based on the occasional problem reports > in message boards. Yes, now I get your point, but if you know what you doing its fine. Problems come when a newbie want to watch DVD, need a decent TV app and so on. The newbie hears on newsgroups that f.e. tvtime is great and the newbie WANT to have it, newbie does'nt care if it is official or not - it must just work. In my opinion every single RPM repo is a good thing since it provides *something*. The biggest problem is to merge those repos under Fedora blessed umbrella. But it is in some cases impossible due to patents (differing US and Europe) and export laws issues. This is the main problem for me. It is kind of dead end: In general: A: I need MP3 support. B: Sorry Fedora does not do that. A: But i need it. B: So get one of non-official packages. And then somebody asks "Why the hell people use non-official packages?" Beacouse they provide functionality maybe in cost of stability. > > > > What is the price of using Fedora and FreshRPMS? Essential packages come > > > > from Fedora, addons come from FreshRPMS, they do *NOT* exactly mix since > > > > none of FreshRPMS packages *replaces* any of Fedora packages - they are > > > > simply *additional* that coexist together. So I still do not get your > > > > point. > > > Not true. The repository contains a couple of packages which override what > > > is included within Red Hat Linux or Fedora Core. > > Can you specify those packages? I'am not saying that is not true but > > there is usualy a reason for this. > Not aiming at a complete list, but gaim, gstreamer, gthumb, nmap, > sylpheed, yum, probably a few more. There are users who refuse to use a > repository when it updates packages included within the core distribution. But this is a dead end - can't you see? apt, yum etc. due to apt in Fedora not contain unofficial sources, then apt in FreshRPMS beacouse Fedora do not contain unofficial sources. A loop. gstreamer - probably due to MP3 support, Fedora does not support MP3, FreshRPMS support it. A loop. Don't know exactly why nmap, gaim, sylpheed. Probably due to QA - it *can* be done (i mean merging, and it's the same for gimp) through stable, testing, unstable phases - non issue. Issue is clear for me - export laws, patents. -- ,--------, |`. .'| Konrad Kosmowski |.'`--'`.| K.Kosmowski@xxxxxxxxxxxxx '--------'
