On Tue, 2003-12-16 at 20:35, John McBride wrote: > You, a person who makes a redundant comment, then resorts to > name-calling while closing things out, yeah that makes a lot of sense! > --- - I fail to see anywhere where I called you names. I did however, suggest that you were whining. - How to ask questions the smart way... <http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html> There is somewhat an implied contract when asking questions to a user supported forum of open source software. There is a lot of wisdom to be gleaned from reading the page linked. Sometimes people just expect everything to be done the windows way and then, they want it to be free, supported for free, and then think that because they like it way windows does it, that someone should change things. Good thought - doesn't fly here. You participate by using the software, helping to support others, contributing code, helping write documentation, etc. If you think your commentary about how xfree86 should exit with errors, you should probably take it over to the development list at xfree86. Personally, I like the idea of getting the errors written to screen (standard out - error out) and to /var/log/xfree.log.0 and think it is light years better than getting errors in Windows that may not be properly reported or logged. One thing that I know for sure, that there have been a lot of programming hours into the xfree86 system and it is entirely portable on many different processors and operating systems and if they considered your idea a priority, it would have been included. Moreover, I suggested that you look into kickstart which seems to be far more suitable for the 'automated' install and can invoke the x configuration setup at the right time. Good thing your mind wasn't closed to that suggestion. Lastly - despite the appearance of a text based console - which apparently you want to avoid like the plague - it is no more difficult nor time consuming to actually run 'redhat-config-xfree86 --reconfig' than it is to click your way through a 'new hardware found' setup on Windows. Unfortunately, plug and play doesn't work as well on Linux as it does on Windows these days - which still doesn't work perfectly either but hey - it's getting better. I'm not looking to pick a fight with you - nor insult you. The whining comment was fair considering what I perceive to be your arrogance to think that you somehow had earned the right to get on this list and announce how you think things should be when I have never seen you help anyone, write any support documents, or participate in any meaningful way. Craig