IMHO if you are expert enough to deal with the issues on the bleeding edge, then you are expert enough to download and install it yourself. A distribution is a collection of software, OS and libraries put together to make installation and operation easy for the new user. Seems a paradox to put bleeding-edge and unstable distributions together to make things 'easier'. The distribution would not be good for the new people, and people expert enough to run it, don't need everything put into a distribution. --------------------------------------------------- Scott Burch President and Chief Scientist Bulldog Information Services 212-343-8148 x111 .-. /v\ The software said it requires // \\ windows 2000 or better, /( )\ so I installed LINUX ^^-^^