On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 08:37, FÃliciano Matias wrote: > Le mer 06/08/2003 Ã 15:23, Steve Bergman a Ãcrit : > > On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 06:28, Alex Kanavin wrote: > > > Any idea when it's going to be back? > > > > It's more calm currently. I have 1640 mails in my rhl-beta mailbox. > > Take a look here : https://listman.redhat.com/archives/rhl-beta-list/ > Thanks! I feel better now that I have seen some interaction and some posts from "Linux Luminaries". I guess I'm a bit nervous over this change. I'm not a developer beyond doing some custom scripting and programming for my (rather small) clients. My contribution (other than general cheer leading) is in implementing Linux based systems for clients. I depend very heavily on the "consumer" version since I need the latest and greatest desktop stuff to compete effectively with XP and the price helps me win out over windows as well. (Not to mention if we need a box *right now*, I can just do it when my MSCE coworkers {who outnumber me} have to formally get a copy of Windows on order, etc, etc., etc.) It was the rather bleak look of rhl.redhat.com that prompted me to join the lists to see how much or little action there actually was. So as I understand it, while development of the release is opening up, RedHat will still provide strong leadership? There's a reason I choose RH and it has a lot to do with the way RH has it's head on straight. The no nonsense approach to the desktop in 8.0 and 9 is impressive. Very business-like. Much easier to navigate. And there really is something to the "less is more" concept. I'm actually enjoying using Gnome and I've been a KDE fan since pre 1.0. I really hope to see more of the same from the "RHL project". I hate to seem like a freeloader (and I've purchased more than a few boxed sets for myself) but the consumer releases, downloaded or purchased, are just more suitable for my users than any of the enterprise offerings and I'm sure I'm not alone. i.e.what happens here is really important. -Steve