On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 11:46:39AM +0200, Tilman Schmidt wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:56:47 -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 01:09:14AM +0200, Tilman Schmidt wrote:
> >> Am 25.10.2007 00:31 schrieb Adrian Bunk:
> >> > Generally, the goal is to get external modules included into the kernel.
> >> > [...] even though it might sound harsh breaking
> >> > external modules and thereby making people aware that their code should
> >> > get into the kernel is IMHO a positive point.
> >>
> >> This argument seems to start from the assumption that any externally
> >> maintained kernel code *can* get into the kernel, which doesn't stand
> >> up to reality. Once you admit that there is code which, for very good
> >> reasons, won't ever be accepted into the mainline kernel tree, what you
> >> are saying amounts to: "Code that isn't fit to be included in the
> >> mainline kernel isn't fit to exist at all."
> >
> > What kind of code is not accepted into the mainline kernel tree for good
> > reasons?
>
> - proprietary code
It's unclear whether distributing not GPL compatible modules is legal
at all.
And they are definitely not "very good reasons" for doing anything in
the kernel.
> - unmaintained code
Unmaintained code in the kernel has a realistic chance of being usable
for 5 years.
Unmaintained external code is quite likely to be unusable after
at most one year.
> - code conflicting with existing kernel structure or policy
> - code in which the concerned subsystem maintainers see no benefit
Let's fix the problems, not work around them.
There is a conflict between getting code included and ensuring some
minimum quality of the kernel, but in many cases we could try better.
And when there's a good reason for a kernel policy, then code that
violates this policy is not a "very good reason" for anything.
> - code which its author is unable and/or unwilling to convert to
> kernel coding standards
> - code whose author is unable and/or unwilling to defend it on LKML
>...
That's their fault, and definitely not a "very good reason" for making
life easier for them.
> Thanks,
> Tilman
cu
Adrian
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