Re: bizarre network timing problem

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Felix von Leitner wrote:
the packet trace was a bit too cooked perhaps, but there were indications that at times the TCP window was going to zero - perhaps something with window updates or persist timers?


Does TCP use different window sizes on loopback?  Why is this not
happening on ethernet?

I don't think it uses different window sizes on loopback, but with the autotuning it can be difficult to say a priori what the window size will be. What one can say with confidence is that the MTU and thus the MSS will be different between loopback and ethernet.


How could I test this theory?

Can you take another trace that isn't so "cooked?" One that just sticks with TCP-level and below stuff?

If SMB is a one-request-at-a-time protocol (I can never remember), you could simulate it with a netperf TCP_RR test by passing suitable values to the test-specific -r option:

netperf -H <remote> -t TCP_RR -- -r <req>,<rsp>

If that shows similar behaviour then you can ass-u-me it isn't your application. One caveat though is that TCP_CORK mode in netperf is very primitive and may not match what you are doing, however, that may be a good thing.

http://www.netperf.org/svn/netperf2/tags/netperf-2.4.4/  or
ftp://ftp.netperf.org/netperf/

to get the current netperf bits. It is also possible to get multiple transactions in flight at one time if you configure netperf with --enable-burst, which will then enable a test-specific -b option. With the latest netperf you cna also switch the output of a TCP_RR test to bits or bytes per second a la the _STREAM tests.

rick jones


My initial idea was that it has something todo with the different MTU on
loopback.  My initial block size was 16k, but the problem stayed when I
changed it to 64k.

Felix

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