On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 11:11 -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> James Bottomley wrote:
> > The initial bsg submit went via the block git tree ... which I believe
> > you have in -mm. We only started taking the updates via the scsi tree
>
> Seven hours before you posted this, in
> <[email protected]>, Andrew already
> noted it was not in -mm.
>
> A trivial examination of the broken-out mm patches backs up the absence
> of Jens' block tree, too.
>
> So let's put this myth / bad assumption to rest, shall we?
Sorry ... I just assumed from the fact that it had been in the block git
tree for six months that it was also in -mm.
> > Yes ... particularly in large trees like SCSI, there's the maintainer
> > "bugger if I don't mail it out now I don't get it in for another three
> > months" factor.
>
> That factor always exists. It's not confined to SCSI or large trees.
> It's basic the nature of the merge window. Nothing new or shocking here.
>
>
> > bsg had actually been sitting in the block tree since 2.6.21, so it had
> > followed the delayed merge rule ... it just seems that it didn't get
> > enough integration testing in that six months. This is what I consider
>
> It didn't get integration testing, at least in part, because it did not
> hit our official pre-release tree. Quoth Andrew:
> > I pulled git-scsi-misc on July 19 and there was no bsg code in there at
> > all. I pulled again on July 20 and all the bsg code was in mainline.
>
>
>
> > I don't disagree; my point is that bsg did follow this rule (in fact it
>
> Evidence says otherwise.
It followed the rule of trying to stabilise outside mainline ... it just
didn't get sufficient integration testing.
> > I wouldn't call bsg half baked ... it was very carefully matured. There
> > were just a few integration issues.
>
> I wouldn't call bsg carefully matured, if in addition to not really
> gracing -mm with its presence, the userland API structure is still
> getting changes on July 29, 2007 (0c6a89ba640d28e1dcd7fd1a217d2cfb92ae4953).
This would be the ABI change I talked about in the previous emails.
So would this problem have been fixed simply by adding the missing block
tree to -mm?
James
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