Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

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On Tue, 19 Jun 2007, Alexandre Oliva wrote:

On Jun 19, 2007, [email protected] wrote:

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
You're losing all that.

based on the knowledge shown by these users you aren't loosing much.

Remember, the sample is biased, the hackers who'd like to hack it are
less likely to buy it, and some might be only making private changes
to avoid legal hassles.

And then, it doesn't have to be all that much.  Since you're talking
specifically about TiVo customers, how much has TiVo effectly
contributed in terms of code?  (It was pointed out before, I know, but
it's important to keep this in perspective, lest people lose sight of
what's at stake)

they contributed all changes they made to GPL code, exactly as required.

in addition they have provided the full build environments, not just listing the versions of the compilers, etc.

remember, not all tivo models are locked down,

Only the earliest that you can't find for sale any more, right?

as a result of watching the hacker groups I can safely say that the
lockdown has not blocked many users. it has slowed modification of the
hacks to new types of hardware, but not for very long.

Well, then...  What's the point *for* tivoization, again?  To slow
down the contributions?  And that's good because...?

no, the point is that while tivoization is not nessasarily the best thing it's far better then the company useing propriatary code.

delayed contributions are better then no contributions.

David Lang
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