On Tuesday, 29 May 2007 08:55, Kay Sievers wrote:
> On 5/25/07, Linus Torvalds <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Fri, 25 May 2007, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > >
> > > 2) we need to preload firmware during _suspend_. I AM TELLING THAT TO
> > > PEOPLE FOR FIVE YEARS NOW.
> >
> > And people aren't listening. Have you thought about _why_?
> >
> > The thing is, it should just work. Even without pre-loading.
> >
> > > Imageine we killed freezer. Also imagine Romano has IDE card his
> > > PCMCIA slot. Kaboom, we solved nothing.
> >
> > Don't be silly. We solved it. The firmware has to be loadable from
> > somewhere else, since otherwise his IDE card wouldn't have been accessible
> > in the first place!
>
> The shiny userspace firmware loading causes problems since it exists,
> every second box has problems with it, in all sorts of situations. If
> people are still sold to the idea of userspace firmware loading, why
> don't we keep the data in the driver, instead of immediately
> discarding it after the first upload? Not to waste a few hundred
> kilobytes? That doesn't sound like a convincing deal, after all the
> years people try to work around the issues it causes.
Agreed.
Rafael
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