Hi, Satyam Sharma schrieb: >> * Since Jens Axboe's stance ["default y idiocy"] is to have >> these menus disabled by default, people should most likely >> enable them first before they will be able to enter them. > > I do agree that anything non-essential (even if it's just a presentation > menu that doesn't affect builds) must be default n. It's tricky for "make oldconfig" when introducing a new "menuconfig" around some previously existing "config"s, because just accepting the default for the new option then causes previously selected ones to be silently dropped. But I don't know a perfect solution for that. Perhaps we'll just have to live with it. Or perhaps a warning message along the line of "deselecting option xxx" would be in order. > IMHO, the real problem with "default y" menuconfig's, is that they > cause unpleasant surprises to those folks that use the text-based > "make oldconfig". They get confronted with choices that they never > bothered about (or even knew existed) previously, and have no > idea how to answer them -- same problem faced by Tilman, when > he used oldconfig. It's actually the other way around, all those options now tucked underneath the menuconfig were previously directly visible, so selecting "y" (either explicitly or by default) makes everything work as before while "n" very conveniently skips them all. It's really quite nice if you know how it works. The only thing that's missing is instructions for those seeing it for the first time. > IMHO, those using "oldconfig" are often looking towards doing > things quickly ... doesn't help them if they have default y menu's > that they need to "?" upon then to see what they're really about. Well, yes and no. I am of course trying to get through the new options as quickly as possible. But if I hit an option I don't understand then typing "?" is the quickest way to sort it out, so it's doubly annoying if that yields nothing. Thanks, Tilman -- Tilman Schmidt E-Mail: [email protected] Bonn, Germany Diese Nachricht besteht zu 100% aus wiederverwerteten Bits. Ungeöffnet mindestens haltbar bis: (siehe Rückseite)
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