Re: Question about Reiser4

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William Heimbigner wrote:
>  Eric Hopper wrote:
> >   I know that this whole effort has been put in disarray by the
> > prosecution of Hans Reiser, but I'm curious as to its status. > > It was in disarray well before. Many of the reiser4 features,
>  like filesystem plugins, make more technical sense in the Linux
>  VFS, but made more business sense for Namesys as a reiserfs 4
>  thing.  That lead to a stalemate.
>
Shouldn't it be a matter of stability though?

A lot of other things matter.  Things like a willingness to
maintain the code after it gets merged, or at least turning
the code into something the community is willing to maintain
if the original developers stop maintaining it.

 Benchmarks suggest that reiser4 is a good file system; reiser4 is the
 successor to the already-accepted reiserfs; we've got experimental ext4
 support but no reiser4 support, etc.

Namesys kind of abandoned reiserfs after work on reiser4
started.  Taking in a new code base on such a track record
is not a good idea when the code is not in a shape where
the community wants to maintain it.

 I don't see why something like plugins should matter. If it works enough
 to be marked as experimental, why shouldn't reiser4 support be included?
 It's a pain for me personally to have to patch any kernel with reiser4
 support so I can use the reiser4 fs.

You basically have three options:

1) keep patching every time you upgrade the kernel

2) use another filesystem

3) become the new reiser4 maintainer and turn the code
   into something that Linus is willing to accept

I suppose. I have a feeling there's an underlying issue behind "code standards" (and even then, I think that code standards is ultimately an excuse for not integrating reiser4 support into the kernel, but that's just my opinion). However, is the code really in such a shape that the community doesn't want to maintain it? Obviously there's a significant number of people interested in reiser4 - if there weren't, questions like this wouldn't keep getting asked.

William Heimbigner
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