Re: (Another?) Seagate / Sil3112a problem...

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philippe.grenard wrote:
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Seagate 7200.8 drive. Well, all went well for a week or two, but then the drive
began to make strange noises, and i got some weird messages
from dmesg output...
I feared a drive failure, so I made a full Seagate diagnoses
of the disk, but no errors...
Well, maybe I got bad luck with that drive, so I decided to
get another one. I took another Seagate, 250Go, 7200.10 this time.

I put this new Seagate (let's call it S_new, the other being
S_old) to the first connector of the Sil 3112a chip, and put
the "old" one on the second connector : thus I have sda for
S_new, and sdb for S_old...

What is really surprising, is that i still got issues with
sda, but none with sdb... so the believed faulty drive is not,
as i got no dmesg errors from sdb...

thus i suspect either a faulty controller, or a problem with
the driver (sata_sil) i use...(or even something with IRQ as I
don't understand anything with IRQ...)
I tried to put both disks numbers in the "blacklist" in
sata_sil.c, but apart from a degraded speed, it didn't do
anything...

Don't do that.  It has nothing to do with your problem.

The other observation I made, was that these problems happens
only when the computer is still "cold" : I mean, after an hour
or two, no problem with this... and even if i reboot (I really
mean reboot, not halt and restart : when the power still turns
on), i got no problem...

Well since I use my computer for Desktop, it really is an
issue for me at the moment, especially when the disk is making
a noise...

I'm on Linux for about 2 or 3 years now, under Debian/SID,
with kernel 2.6.17.13 from kernel.org (self-compiled)

Here is the output of dmesg if it helps...
I can provide any information you would find useful, even make
some tests, but if you could be not too technical, that would
really be great, as I'm a real noob with Hardware problems...

Any help/links/infos/hints would really be appreciated!
I've already googled a lot and found that Seagate/sil3112a is
a problematic couple, but i didn't find any solution for that...
I'll try this evening with an older kernel (if you have any
suggestion for a kernel version...) to see if it's not related
to a kernel upgrade...

All recent Seagate drives work fine w/ sil3112. Only some old models of .7 drives are problematic.

EXT3-fs: unable to read superblock
ata1: command 0xec timeout, stat 0xd0 host_stat 0x0
ata1: translated ATA stat/err 0xd0/00 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ
0xb/47/00
ata1: status=0xd0 { Busy }
ata1: command 0xec timeout, stat 0xd0 host_stat 0x0
ata1: translated ATA stat/err 0xd0/00 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ
0xb/47/00
ata1: status=0xd0 { Busy }
ata1: command 0xb0 timeout, stat 0xd0 host_stat 0x0
ata1: translated ATA stat/err 0xd0/00 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ
0xb/47/00
ata1: status=0xd0 { Busy }
ata1: command 0xb0 timeout, stat 0xd0 host_stat 0x0
ata1: translated ATA stat/err 0xd0/00 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ
0xb/47/00
ata1: status=0xd0 { Busy }
ata1: command 0xec timeout, stat 0xd0 host_stat 0x0
ata1: translated ATA stat/err 0xd0/00 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ
0xb/47/00
ata1: status=0xd0 { Busy }
ata1: command 0xec timeout, stat 0xd0 host_stat 0x0
ata1: translated ATA stat/err 0xd0/00 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ
0xb/47/00
ata1: status=0xd0 { Busy }
ata1: command 0xb0 timeout, stat 0xd0 host_stat 0x0
ata1: translated ATA stat/err 0xd0/00 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ
0xb/47/00
ata1: status=0xd0 { Busy }
ata1: command 0xb0 timeout, stat 0xd0 host_stat 0x0
ata1: translated ATA stat/err 0xd0/00 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ
0xb/47/00
ata1: status=0xd0 { Busy }

You'll probably get better result with 2.6.18-rc7 which includes new libata error handling and more detailed diagnostic messages. However, your problem seems to be hardware issue. Probably the controller or the cable.

I think your link is just flaky enough to cause problem from time to time and even when it does it oscillates between link established and broken. Such condition can cause rapid continuous hardresets to the attached device, which, depending on drive, can result in weird noise.

So, several things to try...

* make sure the cables are well-plugged

* if you have a spare, swap cables. if not, swap the first and second cable and see what happens.

* if the problem still persists && it doesn't follow the cable (ie. you swapped the first and second cable but the first port still fails), your controller or circuits on board is the problem. Buy a add-on card, it's really cheap these days.

--
tejun
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