Re: PATCH: Multiprobe sanitizer

[Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>]

On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 05:22 -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 02:12:57PM +0200, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 05:00 -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> > > On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 11:24:35AM +0200, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > > > Probe ordering is fragile and completely defeated with busses that are
> > > > already probed asynchronously (like USB or firewire), and things can
> > > > only get worse. Thus we need to look for generic solutions, the trick of
> > > > maintaining probe ordering will work around problems today but we'll
> > > > still hit the wall in an increasing number of cases in the future.
> > > 
> > > That's exactly why udev was created :)
> > > 
> > > It can handle bus ordering issues already today just fine, and distros
> > > use it this way in shipping, "enterprise ready" products.
> > 
> > Only up to a certain point and for certain drivers... but yeah. 
> 
> What drivers are not supported by this?  Seriously, have we missed any?

udev will not create stable names for a bunch of things... at least not
with the default config that comes with distros. On my shuttle with the
built-in USB card reader, whatever config comes up with the box will
cause the machine to boot or fail to boot due to sda not beeing what
it's expected to be, and udev is of no help because it won't create
stable device names. Yes, I'm confident it _can_ be configured to do so.
It generally is not.

fbdev's also come to mind etc...

It's mostly a distro problem at this point...

Ben.


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