RE: replacing X Window System !

["Döhr, Markus ICC-H" <Markus.Doehr@siegenia-aubi.com>]

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> >Did you actually do that? Starting Firefox over a 6 Mbit VPN takes 
> >about 3 minutes on a FAST machine. That´s not acceptable - our users 
> >want (almost) immediate response to an application, to clicking and 
> >waiting 10 seconds until the app is doing something.
> >  
> >
> It is not that bad.  I tried starting firefox on a machine 
> 20km away, using a 5Mbps ADSL link from the "wrong" end.  (I 
> ssh'ed into my home pc from work.) Firefox started in 55s, 
> not 3min. Still bad, but that is a firefox problem, not a 
> generic X-tunneling problem.  I can start the lyx word 
> processor in 3s over the same link, and have decent 
> performance while using it too.

55 seconds to start an application... That´s not acceptable. Why do you
think it´s a Firefox problem? Did you try this with a Java application? 

I don´t wanna blame X in general, just saying it is useless if you´re
sitting in Hungary or Poland and want to work remotely - in comparision to
M$´s  RDP. 

The question for me is not "X or not X" - but how to enable people to start
e. g. "sam" on an HP-UX box without needing to wait minutes before the
application starts. It works - for sure, but the speed is for our needs not
acceptable. Additionally ~ 60 ssh sessions on a single box will but a lot of
CPU load on the system beside the fact, that you need a BIG BIG pipe.


-- 
Markus
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