CIFS emulated mode bits

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VALETTE Eric RD-MAPS-REN wrote:

Steve French wrote:
VALETTE Eric RD-MAPS-REN wrote:

Steve French wrote:
let me know if your cat example works when mounted
with the relatively new "noperm" mount option on the client.   At least
then we will know whether we are looking at a problem with access
control on the server (ntfs acls) or client (unix mode bits and the
.permission entry point)

Works with the "noperm" mount option.

--eric

OK - That is good, should be relatively easy to debug from here.

To explain what is going on, here is some obvious background. Windows uses a rich ACL model locally and over the network via CIFS (other protocols such as NFSv4 now do something similar) and Windows of course does not have really have or need Unix mode bits ... and the server (unlike Samba and those that implement the standard SNIA CIFS Unix extensions) does not return emulated mode bits (although it does locally in Windows "services for Unix" and of course also cygwin does something similar) ... so the cifs client has to approximate mode bits. If the client makes an incorrect approximation you can get access denied on a client side permission check. Of course some would argue that for clients that are running as single user desktop clients the client does not need to do perm checks (the server does ACL checks) so just turn off the client permission checks - that is why the "noperm" option is available on the cifs client.

So the choices today are:

1) Turn off mode bit checking (on the client) on a particular cifs mount (noperm mount option)
or
2) pass in a default mode and uid or gid on the cifs mount that matches what you want (otherwise cifs will use the uid of the mounter, and a default mode). Although cifs caches the mode bits in the inode if they are modified by an app on the client e.g. via chmod (while the inode stays in memory on the client) - for querying (lookups/stat) on existing files cifs can only use the +R dos attribute to distinguish when to return something other than 0777 (or the default).
or
3) turn on the "sfu" mount option on the client and let cifs make the (more expensive) queries to the server for mode information the same way that "services for unix" would. This does not work for all mode bits yet, as it requires additional CIFS ACL support to be coded, but it does now work for the 3 bits above 0777 (as of just after 2.6.15-rc2).

Following the suggestions of Martin Koeppe and others there may be a need to allow a "cygwin" mount option as well.
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