Re: Crazy directory thing

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On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 09:05:59AM -0600, Robin Laing wrote:
> I looked through the man bash and I see the issue but it doesn't fix 
> the problem.  If you are in a linked directory and want to cp or mv a 
> file using the linked paths, it just does not work.  If you set the -P 
> option (as I understand it) you are moved to the actual directory and 
> pwd would show this.  In my opinion, I would expect symlinks to act as 
> actual directories and the paths would follow those issues.

The problem is: if you're in a symlinked directory, what is ".."? How do
programs know how you got there -- all they know is the current working
directory. And it'd be kinda bizarre (and in some cases defeat the *point*
of using symlinked directories) if the answer depended on where you came
from.

> I now know why I am having problems with a couple of things I an 
> trying to do from the CLI.  The more I think about it, the more it is 
> a bug.  I will wait until I install FC4 to see if this is still an issue.

It will be.

Bash is trying its best to do what you want -- to pretend that symlinked
directories are bind mounts (see the man page for mount, lookit "--bind").
But because of the nature of symlinks, sometimes that pretense can't cover
for everything.

The two possible solutions are: 1) understand what's going on and work
around it and 2) turn off the pretense with 'set -P'.

Oh, and of course 3) don't use symlinks for directories; use bind mounts
instead.

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