Re: Fork Bomb and why it doesn't happen on BSDs

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On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 14:11 -0600, Aleksandar Milivojevic wrote:
> William Hooper wrote:
> > Ow Mun Heng said:
> > [snip]
> > 
> >>The author then compares the results with that of BSD eg: OpenBSD and
> >>FreeBSD IIRC, and notes that on a system with Pentium 90 w/ 32MB Ram, on
> >>using the forkbomb, doesn't bring the system down to it's knees.
> > 
> > 
> > Following the discussion on the -devel list, the BSDs aren't immune.
> > 
> > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2005-March/msg01201.html
> 
> I gave a try to "while(1) fork();" on OpenBSD (SS5, 64MB RAM).  You 
> can't go much simpler than that.  Results:
> 
> Running as normal user, max number of processes is limited to 64 by 
> default, load average went to 50-something.  Perfectly able to kill 
> offending process(es).
> 
> Running as root, max number of processes is limited to 340, load average 
> went to almost 300.  Not able to do much, since root couldn't create any 
> new processes (in order to kill existing), but top worked, and already 
> running processes worked.  Anyhow, if somebody does fork bomb as root, 
> he could just as well type "halt" or wipe out the disk or do some other 
> irreversable damage.
> 
> The maximum number of processes per user is hard coded in OpenBSD 
> kernel.  It is 340 for root, and 64/128 for normal users in my generic 
> kernel (soft limit is 64, hard limit is 128).  If you want more either 
> for root or normal users, you need to recompile the kernel.  In *BSD 
> world, recompiling the kernel is something you do twice a day anyhow, so 
> this isn't much of a problem ;-)
> 
> For those interested, these are ulimits on stock OpenBSD (user and root, 
> soft and hard).
> 
[SNIP]

I see.. So, ulimits _are_ set by default(lower) in *BSDs and not as what
I thought that they had some kind of process watchdog in place.

Thanks for clearing that up.

-- 
Ow Mun Heng
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