On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 16:21 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, David Woodhouse wrote:
> >
> > It isn't that far off, and we could improve it if we wanted to. In
> > _general_ it's quite good already.
>
> I agree that it's close to hierarchical. But it's literally the exceptions
> that get you.
>
> Let me mention (again) USB_STORAGE and ATA.
>
> They are not "under" SCSI. Making them do that would be insane.
But in the graphical tool that's _good_. Because those are the options
you _wanted_ to see.
You don't want to go digging around under the SCSI menu where all those
boring hostadapters are, but you _do_ get to see the USB and ATA stuff
elsewhere.
But that's only for the graphical tool, which is where I actually
expected the handholding to be required. If you want it in 'oldconfig'
then I think that's weird, but I don't have a better solution than
'select', unfortunately.
> > It would work quite nicely in the graphical tools, although you've
> > thrown me a little by wanting it in the hacker's tool 'oldconfig' too.
> > You obviously care more about turning stuff _on_ with 'make oldconfig'
> > while other people who've spoken up seem to care more, as I do, about
> > turning stuff _off_ that way. If I want my hand held, I'm happy enough
> > to use the graphical tools.
>
> I tend to just edit the .config file, and run "make oldconfig". And I know
> I'm not the only one, because I've talked to others who do the same.
That's exactly what I do too.
> And yes, then it's almost always correct to "turn things on as needed to
> make everything work out right", while turning things off would be
> actively wrong.
My experience is exactly the opposite; perhaps because I spend so much
of my time working on the Fedora kernel where almost everything starts
off enabled by default, and I only ever want to turn stuff off.
I think 'make oldconfig_noselect' is the way forward. We can both have
what we want.
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dwmw2
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