Hello, just updated kde to 4.5.5 on my Fedora 13 and going to test something about the progress. Not tested very much, but it seems quite good as look and feel and general organization. Some sudden showstoppers are: - I'm usually using kmail in gnome and it seems it is far more fluid in gnome than in kde itself.... This is for scrolling in general inside it when you see summary of mail highlighted and also when I select a range of rows and move them to thrash In firefox instead it seems better in scrolling and general usage with kde than with gnome. - Moving windows around the desktop... not fluid as in gnome... some jerkiness... I have a Dell laptop with GeForce 8400M GS and nvidia proprietary drivers 260.19.29 I have not enable desktop effects in kde I have an external 19" monitor connected to vga port of my laptop. Relevant sections in my xorg.conf that I'm using since Fedora 10 but could be optimized in other way now and that could influence are: Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Default Layout" Screen 0 "Screen1" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" Option "Xinerama" "0" EndSection Section "ServerFlags" Option "AIGLX" "on" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Device0" Driver "nvidia" VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation" BoardName "GeForce 8400M GS" Option "NoLogo" "True" Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen1" Device "Device0" Monitor "Monitor1" DefaultDepth 24 Option "TwinView" "1" Option "TwinViewXineramaInfoOrder" "DFP-0" Option "metamodes" "CRT: nvidia-auto-select +0+0, DFP: nvidia-auto-select +0+1024" SubSection "Display" Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Enable" EndSection Anyone using kde and getting it more fluid? Any comments about above configuration? The best would be a configuration (or a non configuration at all, if possible, so without an xorg.conf) where I can boot with or without the external monitor and being able to use it automatically only if present. I don't know if I can accompish this by logging in and running xrandr when I have the external monitor connected.... Eventually I'm planning to upgrade to F14 if this gives something useful. Thanks in advance, Gianluca -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines