On all machines running F14 with a usable GUI, PackageKit's gpk- update-viewer (which I run daily, sometimes more) often tells me it sees no updates, or only very few. I've been making it a practice, every time it claims that, to run yum update. Very often yum gets a great long list (anywhere from a dozen to two or three hundred, the latter in cases of a laptop which hasn't been booted for weeks). Comments, please! Am I the only one seeing this?? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines