Hi, I'm running into a strange problem using procmail and mutt, with some of my MBOX mailboxes stored on an encfs encrypted directory. This is not the known problem with hardlinks, rather it's a problem with st_atime. My default mailbox folder is on an unencrypted filesystem (ext4). Some mailboxes with more confidential stuff I'm storing in an encfs mounted directory on the same ext4 FS. The FS mount options are default, which includes the relatime option. When I set my mail delivery up I found that mutt didn't notice when an encrypted MBOX file received a new message via procmail. A bit of experimenting showed that the setting "check_mbox_size=yes" rectified this problem. However, "check_mbox_size=yes" is kind of a hack with annoying side-effects, so that's not really a solution. Eventually I found the following strange behaviour. - When I append data manually to a file on the encfs, only st_mtime and st_ctime changes, as expected. - When procmail appends new messages to an unencrypted mailbox, only st_mtime and st_ctime changes, as expected. - However, when procmail appends a message to an encfs encrypted MBOX, it doesn't only change st_mtime and st_ctime, but also st_atime! Naturally this breaks mutt's algorithm to detect mailboxes with new mail. For the time being I tweaked mutt to recognize mailboxes with new mails also if st_atime == st_mtime, but that's almost just a bad hack as using check_mbox_size=yes. So the real question is, why does st_atime change here at all? I tried the debug option for procmail, but the debug output didn't contain anything helpful. Does anybody have a hunch what happens here? Thank in advance, Corinna -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines