On 12/21/10 6:18 PM, Matt Smith wrote: > On 12/21/10, James McKenzie<jjmckenzie51@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On 12/21/10 1:46 PM, Parshwa Murdia wrote: >>> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 11:46 PM, William Case<billlinux@xxxxxxxxxx >>> <mailto:billlinux@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>> >>> I am not a programmer, but I wanted the answer you seem to want. How >>> does the damn thing work? More explicitly: >>> >>> How does human understandable information get converted by a machine >>> into electrical data; then store it; may or may not, transform, >>> compare, >>> and/or relocate the data; and then re-present the data as information >>> meaningful to humans? >>> >>> I found the answer in "The C Programming Language" by Brian W. >>> Kernighan >>> and Dennis M. Ritchie. This book is such a basic that it is often >>> referred to just as K&R. If you try to simply use this book as a >>> tutorial for the C language it is too difficult. Almost every >>> sentence >>> contains a new concept. But K&R and 'C' are closest to the metal. >>> It's >>> description and particularly its appendices are used by programmers >>> mainly as a reference. It really is a text on how to best write >>> code so >>> that the compiler can use your 'C' code by translating it into machine >>> language. It is also, therefore, basic instructions for compiler >>> writers >>> on how they have writer their compilers. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sure, how to get this book? Is it available online somewhere? >> Not legally, anywhere. However, the Second Edition is available from >> Amazon and other book retailers. It is not very expensive. It would >> cost me more to mail you the extra copy I have to you than it would be >> to buy it (even in the United States.) >> >> James McKenzie >> >> -- >> users mailing list >> users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> To unsubscribe or change subscription options: >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >> >> > Can we please get c++ involved in the discussion, it runs circles > around C on all levels.. > How? This is for a BEGINNER programmer who wants to learn about proper structures and other programming 'stuff'. Yes, once you learn PROPER programming, you can and should move onto Object Oriented Programming. For this, I HIGHLY recommend learning Java, not C++. Write once, run anywhere (just about.) C++ is write once, compile a dozen times, fix hundreds of 'bugs'. You end up with twelve different executables and possibly dozens of software versions. James McKenzie -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines