On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 11:26 PM, Tim <ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Last time I looked, which was a long time ago, removing Evolution would > remove lots of other (lots of Gnome) things that depended on it. > How did you uninstall them, and what did it take out at the same time. I uninstalled via add/remove menu from which one can check listed files to be removed. >> Just after that process, the X server crashed. The screen suddenly >> became dark. > Could be coincidental. But chances are that you ended up removing lots > of other things that were needed for a graphical system. Exactly, that was the case. Gnome removed all files supporting Evolution and some other packages. One thing I like the add/remove menu because it gives dialogue box and I use it quite often. I used to unintall the evolution from FC7 and found no problem with the X server. Therefore, when the dialogue box listed files to be removed, I did not care. I should have been aware when removing packages shown in the gnome panel by default. > > This does sound like you removed more than just Firefox and Evolution. > Copying files from one box to another is just going to cause lots of > problems. One of which is maintaining what's installed on your system. Yes, it brings me to the old days as well, fully working on command line. I am not sure whether I can finally recover the systems, but at least now the X window starts to appear, although not full yet. Booting does not reach login front, I still need to press CTRL+ALT+F2 for completing runlevel 3, although the runlevel is set 5 in inittab. All panes stii disappear after login through the console and running startx. For the record, here I list some commands $ locate gnome | grep applet | less $ locate evolution | grep | less $ ls -d */ Comparing what shown in two boxes, I copy the missing files to the crashed one. I wanted to connect them via LAN cable, but I do not remember how to set the IP address through command line, I use usb stick instead $ mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb/ $ cp -r /mnt/usb/files_to_copied ./proper_directory > The RPM database keeps track of what's installed on your computer. It's > updated by using the rpm command, or yum (the preferred option, now). > It knows nothing about files added or removed by other methods, so > missing file can foul up other things, and additional files may get > stomped on when you next install/update a package. I realize this point, that is why I wanted to use yum for updating. The problem is, I am using DSL connection and I do not know how to set up from the command line. Googling but didn't find explanation of manually setting ppp0. There is no ifcfg-ppp0 in the directory /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ I think, once it is connected, the system can be fully recovered. I know updating can be performed from local dvd by modifying the script in /etc/yum.repos.d/, but I have not tried yet. >> Of course I can re-install FC14 again but I am sure that is not the >> only way of fixing it. > > In your case, it might be the easiest solution. Otherwise, you're going > to have to manually remove the files you copied from the other box (can > you remember exactly what you did), and reinstall any essential packages > that were removed when you removed Evolution. Which may mean you have > to put up with Evolution being installed (it's only a waste of disc > space, and updating bandwidth, if you don't use it; but having an unused > program won't change how Fedora behaves for you). To some extent, it is waist of time but I like the point that we pay Linux with our time by which we get educated. > Other options may be to use something else instead of Gnome (KDE, FVWM, > etc.), which have far less dependencies. Though it's been my experience > that all desktops insist on installing at least a few things that I > don't want. I always found KDE to be much more of a behemoth than > Gnome. I am thinking about this and will have a try. Thanks for the response and I will be glad in the case you have further comments. Regards, AA -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
