Re: FC14 good/bad news

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Robert Myers wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Bill Davidsen<davidsen@xxxxxxx>  wrote:
>> I installed FC14 in a VM, on a 7.7GB disk image. After that was installed and
>> tested to some extent, I copied the image to an 8GB SD memory and booted off it.
>> Worked with the micro-SD in an adaptor to full size SD, and in a micro-SD to USB
>> nubbin. When I installed I made the filesystems ext2 to avoid beating the
>> storage, other than that stock install.
>>
>> Now I can select enhanced effects for video, and they work fine (for values of
>> fine considering I wanted to see if they work, not that I want them on).
>> However, the display is still dog slow, glxgears runs at 60fps, video is jerky,
>> etc. So the "better" video now doesn't crash, does provide effects I don't need,
>> and is still too slow to be useful, even on a non-game machine. So much for not
>> using vendor drivers.
>>
>> System is i7-950, 12GB RAM, Radeon HD 4350 video, used as a VM host most of the
>> time. Not a killer machine, not a dog.
>>
>> I will be doing some testing to see if the newer KVM is any better in a
>> measurable way, but when VNC to a machine with fast video is better than
>> console, there is room for improvement.
>>
>
> Sorry that I've just noticed your original post.
>
> You may remember that I've posted elsewhere that I've talked about
> being very pleased with core i7-920 supporting a mixture of guests,
> with a Radeon video card.  All of that reported experience uses
> Windows Vista as the host and VMWare software to run the guest
> operating systems.
>
> I had previously tried using Fedora as the host OS, and I am now
> determined to wait for a viable bare metal hypervisor before trying
> any further experiments.
>
> The Windows Vista/VMWare guest setup appears to involve a fair bit of
> baling wire and chewing gum, with the need to install VMWare "tools"
> that are *very* specific to the guest OS.  Windows XP runs noticeably
> better as a guest than does Fedora (surprise, surprise).  Windows XP
> integrates seamlessly with the sound card.  For Fedora, the fact that
> I don't really need a sound card is a big plus (it works, but it's
> clunky).
>
> For everyday operations, though, it's hard to tell that I'm using a
> virtual machine, even when the virtual machine is acting as an
> x-server for a remote box.  If I were to continue trying to use Fedora
> as a virtual host at this point, I'd see it as my contribution to what
> is obviously a very immature software technology.  The hardware
> appears to be more than up to the task.
>
Odd, I have been running this desktop as virtual since FC6, and under FC13 I 
have a number of VMs running which seem just fine, including various Fedora, 
CentOS-5, and XP machines. I tried VISTA as a test, and it was clunky, but then 
it is on bare metal, as well.

One thing to note, I start VMs from script using qemu-kvm called from command 
line. I started doing that back when there was no fancy hypervisor, and it suits 
my usage (which is admittedly sometimes unusual). Other than enabling the analog 
sound in PA I use no tricks, and run fine on FC1[34] hosts.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot
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