Re: End of life for FC12?

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--- On Thu, 11/11/10, Tim <ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


> On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 10:36 -0800,
> Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > Lack of the usual indicators, that is, no odd
> application behavior,
> > no unusual slow-downs, no excessive CPU usage, no
> excessive or
> > abnormal net (or hard drive) activity, no crashes or
> freezes, no
> > strange log reports, no reports from friends about
> receiving spam
> > e-mails from me that I never sent, etc.
> >  
> > I've spent enough time fixing friends' infected
> Windows machines that
> > I've gotten a "feel" for when something is
> amiss.  It's not a
> > definitive feeling, just an indicator to start
> checking for something
> > wrong.
> 
> I've seen comments made that the usual things you notice
> with a hacked
> Windows installation (where it's horribly sluggish and
> unstable), really
> only apply to Windows.  Not to mention that an
> un-hacked, but otherwise
> crappily maintained, Windows box behaves just the same.
> 
> Having your Linux box re-tasked to do a lot of work would
> probably be
> noticeable, but a hacked box might be abused in other (low
> load) ways,
> and you might be the sleeping zombie, waiting to be
> used.  Or simply the
> anon proxy for one nefarious person, who doesn't do a lot
> of their
> illegal actions, but enough that you don't want to be held
> responsible
> for.
> 
> And I'd be inclined to think that if someone was going to
> use you as a
> spam server, they'd probably be using their own list of
> recipients and
> random "from" addresses.
> 
> I don't think it's that likely that you'd be crash happy
> with a hacked
> Linux computer.  Crashing is in Window's nature. 
> It's more than happy
> for the whole thing to come down in a mess, rather than
> just the errant
> program.  I'd expect a bad program trying to be
> naughty on Linux to be
> the thing that crashed, while the rest of the computer kept
> on going.
> It certainly behaves that way when normal programs screw
> up.
> 
> So, I wouldn't say "I don't think anybody could have hacked
> me, and I'm
> not going to check."

I never said that nor was it my intention to imply that.  All I said was in the 10 years of using Linux none of my systems were ever hacked or infected.  I never said I didn't check my system.  I do.  Daily.  Automatically.  Cron-jobs.  Plus, manual checks--logs and what-nots--periodically.  Sometimes the first indicator that something may (not is) wrong is the way the system runs and performs:  the little things that someone who doesn't use the system daily wouldn't notice.

B
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