On 11/11/10, Patrick Bartek <bartek047@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > --- On Wed, 11/10/10, Andras Simon <szajmi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> >> [snip] >> >> How do you know you haven't been infected or >> hacked? >> >> (I don't doubt that you do, just curious about >> how.) >> > >> > Lack of the usual indicators, that is, no odd >> application behavior, no >> > unusual slow-downs, no excessive CPU usage, no >> excessive or abnormal net (or >> > hard drive) activity, no crashes or freezes, no >> strange log reports, no >> > reports from friends about receiving spam e-mails from >> me that I never sent, >> > etc. >> > >> > I've spent enough time fixing friends' infected >> Windows machines that I've >> > gotten a "feel" for when something is amiss. >> It's not a definitive feeling, >> > just an indicator to start checking for something >> wrong. >> > >> >> I hope that you're not deluding yourself... > > Why would you think I am? I'm no expert on intrusion detection, but I'm pretty sure that it involves much more than gut feelings. A clever cracker will make sure that you don't experience "the usual indicators". Anyway, even if you use eol'd Fedoras (and I must admit, I do, too), you should probably not let sensitive data (credit card numbers and such) anywhere near it. Andras -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines