Investigating just a little more, using the tzdata package... What I have installed: * tzdata-2010n-1.fc13.noarch (version 2010n) What is on the Fedora 14 DVD: * tzdata-2010k-1.fc14.noarch (version 2010k) and there don't appear to be any F14 updates for tzdata yet (using yum list available). So that explains why tzdata is still showing fc13 ... because it actually is newer that the current fc14 package !! A quick attempt to install using rpm -U verifies that the install fails with an "installed version is newer" error. So tzdata is explained .... now to look into the hundreds of other packages... -- Deron Meranda http://deron.meranda.us/ -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines