On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 14:24:21 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > Where is QA when we need them? > > Please join[1] and help. It's easy, free, and painless. > > I only test Thunderbird, but Thunderbird and Sunbird usually get pushed > in a single update[2] so my positive karma for TB also affects Sunbird. > You can fight my positive karma with your negative karma. :) > > > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Join > [2] > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/sunbird-1.0-0.30.b2pre.fc13,thunderbird-3.1.6-1.fc13 > What?! IMHO, you should not give positive karma if you only tested an update set partially. The brief and even missing comments in that update ticket also leave much to be desired. Both packages in that ticket do need testing. Fedora has suffered before from updates that have been rushed out without sufficient testing. In cases where at least the package maintainer(s) ought to have strong interest in positive feedback from multiple people or in good results for specific tests. We can't fix that if we continue with delivering updates that aren't ready. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines